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Pincho Paxton · 09-09-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers

Total speculation!

Well she did go around the room picking out something wrong with each person when Ron was there.

fingers · 09-09-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Well she did go around the room picking out something wrong with each person when Ron was there.

That doesn't alter the fact that what you wrote is sheer speculation.

Northern Monkey · 09-09-2013, 11:24 PM

Meh,Carol is entitled to say Lauren has a boyish figure if that's what she thinks.Lauren did'nt like it,Carol appologised,Lauren accepted it,End of.Lauren could say that Carol has a face like a ballsack,Appologise next day then it is up to Carol wether she accepts the appology,If she does,Cool,No harm done.No biggy really.

Pincho Paxton · 09-09-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers

That doesn't alter the fact that what you wrote is sheer speculation.

Your speculation was caught out, mine hasn't been so I'm safe.

Tozzie · 09-09-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Lauren does have a boyish figure, as some people have already said. It wasn't mean as an insult, I'm sure. Surely people should be relaxed about Lauren and who she is, and not have to watch every single thing they say in case she's offended. Wouldn't that be far worse, if people were always on egg shells worrying about what they can and can't say? It's not like Carol made some kind of serious, thought-through phobic comment.

I wouldn't feel like I was walking on eggshells, I just wouldn't have said that in the first place

CaudleHalbard · 09-09-2013, 11:37 PM

I presume Carol was drunk when she said it..... without thinking.

Lauren seemed unbothered.

Tozzie · 09-09-2013, 11:38 PM

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I presume Carol was drunk when she said it..... without thinking.

Lauren seemed unbothered.

Carol doesnt give a flying eff what she says, end of

Livia · 10-09-2013, 11:19 AM

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I wouldn't feel like I was walking on eggshells, I just wouldn't have said that in the first place

So you'd have been filtering your comments, however innocent they might be, because of Lauren's extreme sensitivity. If that's not walking on eggshells, I'm not sure what is.

Vanessa · 10-09-2013, 11:20 AM

I think Lauren took no offence. Carol meant no harm.

anne666 · 10-09-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by erinp5

Carol did apologise to Lauren for being tactless ,I watched it and I can say Carol did not mean it in a malicious way.

Yes she did. they were in the bedroom the next morning and Lauren came over to her and said she was a bit upset by her comment. Carol immediately apologised profusely. She meant that Lauren needed to eat more, which she is doing, to look more womanly and curvy, which Lauren also agreed with.Lauren isn't the shrinking violet that some make her out to be and confronts people when she is upset.

Marmalite · 10-09-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Carol has to say the meanest thing she can think of to each housemate. Sometimes she has to back down to get away with it. In Lauren's case she depended on Lauren to not notice that she was backing down from an insult. Lauren did not take it to heart, Lauren did not notice that Carol backed down from her accusation with Sophie either. It is Lauren's good nature that lets Carol say what she wants.

Oh give over!

If Carol had said that to someone like Sophie (who also has a boyish figure) no one would've batted an eyelid. There was no way Carol meant it in as an insult.

Just because Lauren has had a sex change doesn't mean everyone has to walk around on egg shells being careful about how and what they say in case idiots take it as insults!

Carol said she herself has a boyish figure... was she insulting herself as well then?

Let's all put Loopy Lauren on a pedestal and wrap her up in cotton wool in case the big, bad, mean world makes her upset.

mr rochester · 10-09-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by anne666

Yes she did. they were in the bedroom the next morning and Lauren came over to her and said she was a bit upset by her comment. Carol immediately apologised profusely. She meant that Lauren needed to eat more, which she is doing, to look more womanly and curvy, which Lauren also agreed with.Lauren isn't the shrinking violet that some make her out to be and confronts people when she is upset.

Yes I agree with this. Lauren did tell Carol afterwards and then she patted Carol as a gesture of comfort to Carol. I don't think Carol deserved any comfort because she was rude and unkind saying that to Lauren. I was pleased that Lauren had a good long think about it (no knee jerk reaction) and then raised it a good while later.

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmalite

Oh give over!

If Carol had said that to someone like Sophie (who also has a boyish figure) no one would've batted an eyelid. There was no way Carol meant it in as an insult.

Just because Lauren has had a sex change doesn't mean everyone has to walk around on egg shells being careful about how and what they say in case idiots take it as insults!

Carol said she herself has a boyish figure... was she insulting herself as well then?

Let's all put Loopy Lauren on a pedestal and wrap her up in cotton wool in case the big, bad, mean world makes her upset.

She said to Sophie 'Trout face' not boyish figure. See the similarity?

fingers · 10-09-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Your speculation was caught out, mine hasn't been so I'm safe.

Safe from WHAT?

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers

Safe from WHAT?

I'm using speculation based on evidence, and you are using speculation based against the evidence. That safe.

Marmalite · 10-09-2013, 04:10 PM

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She said to Sophie 'Trout face' not boyish figure. See the similarity?

No.

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmalite

No.

The similarity is that she chooses to offend. Not to give helpful criticism.

fingers · 10-09-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I'm using speculation based on evidence, and you are using speculation based against the evidence. That safe.

For someone who claims this on his Twitter account > "Genius is an insult to my intelligence!" it seems you are simply looking for arguments.

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 04:16 PM

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For someone who claims this on his Twitter account > "Genius is an insult to my intelligence!" it seems you are simply looking for arguments.

Last night you were saying that Lauren had contact with a member of her family, there was no evidence last night. I said that my speculation was safe, because there was evidence of my speculation. Today there is evidence that Lauren spoke to her mom, I now go with that safe evidence. That is how science works. It is the correct way to do things. That is intelligence.

Marmalite · 10-09-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

The similarity is that she chooses to offend. Not to give helpful criticism.

There was no intention of offending Lauren. She said she has a boyish figure because she is too thin and that if she gained some weight she would be more curvy, to which Lauren agreed. She (Carol) then went on to say (as I have already said) that she too has a boyish figure.

So there is no similarity and besides Sophie does have a trout pout and Lauren does have a boyish figure.

fingers · 10-09-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Last night you were saying that Lauren had contact with a member of her family, there was no evidence last night. I said that my speculation was safe, because there was evidence of my speculation. Today there is evidence that Lauren spoke to her mom, I now go with that safe evidence. That is how science works. It is the correct way to do things. That is intelligence.

You're baiting but I'm not biting.

Pincho Paxton · 10-09-2013, 04:31 PM

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There was no intention of offending Lauren. She said she has a boyish figure because she is too thin and that if she gained some weight she would be more curvy, to which Lauren agreed. She (Carol) then went on to say (as I have already said) that she too has a boyish figure.

So there is no similarity and besides Sophie does have a trout pout and Lauren does have a boyish figure.

We can all insult people with honesty, it is no excuse.