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Old 11-09-2013, 11:48 PM #1
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Default 'The world needs to see someone like you win this' - incredible clip !!!

Wow !!!!

Now call me cynical but is this simply as it seems or VERY interesting indeed ?

I suspect there's a lot more to it than there appears at face value.

Please watch it very carefully... (click the top link for youtube or visit C5 website)

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Quotes by Abz....

"It was meant to be for you. I believe crystals and things like that have a destiny and are pre-determined".

Does Lauren have a pre-determined destiny ?
Or could it possibly be Abz is trying to change the course of destiny over to his side with a great gameplan instead ?!

"They're with you for a while but they wanna move on."

Wonder if some of her fans may want to move on over to Abz ?....

"And I know you know that."
"Wouldn't want to give it to anybody else !"

Talking about the crystal or fans voting Lauren winning Big Brother ?!

Lauren : "You wouldn't me though" [????]

Sincere modesty and self deprication or hidden code for "You don't really want me to win" ?

Abz: Laughs... "I'm telling ya !"

"She knows what she wants !"


What does he mean she knows what she wants ????

"I keep saying when I'm the diary room to Big Brother, they even saying to me 'You're getting on with Lauren'...."

Oh really ?! Interesting...

"You've got the clothes just entertaining you look fabulous in everything you do."

Does she look fabulous ? Is she really entertaining ?
Is this Abz putting her up for public scrutiny ?

"You speak your truth"

Just slang talk or hinting it's HER own version of the truth ?

"When I heard your letter about you writing your little notes 'I'm gonna win Big Brother', this is it !!!!"

[Recap: Lauren's letter said "We still find your notes to yourself around the house which [have?] written for years 'I will win Celebrity Big Brother !'"
See 3.23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCZ_6bZN4K8]

Is it slightly odd the letter would say "written for years" I will win Celebrity Big Brother" ?]

"This is it. It's your time Lauren. It's what the world needs, I say to Big Brother 'Someone needs, the world needs to see someone like you win this man, so brave what you've been through, where you've been, what you've done, speak your truth, you're full of love, you don't want to say a negative thing but you have to because you're in here and have to nominate and stuff like that."

Wouldn't Abz really be the person the world might want to see win ?
Surely everything he's saying above about Lauren could also apply to himself ?

"but I think it's all about you, it's your time right now."
Sincere or sarcastic dig or a hidden admission it's HER show ?

"It's your time right now, it has to be and if it isn't, I'll be suprised, I'll be shocked."
Sincere or hinting he's sussed she's nailed on to win ?

"But I told you I'm Team Lauren all the way !" [laughs]

Why's he saying "but" ?
And why's he laughing ?
Sincere, cosying up to the potential winner or just trying to pull the rug from under her ?

Also....

Is there any ulterior motive to Lauren going into the lounge and saying "I deserve to have this" ???
Why announce it ?

Typically Carol and Louie play it down like Abz is being robbed lol.

So what do you reckon ?....

Is Abz just trying to make his points in a very sincere manner ?
Or trying to steal Lauren's destiny ?

If the former he's got a heart of gold.
If the latter, it's one fuucking blinder of a genius gameplan !

I'm now starting to question if Lauren has got an empty looking gameplan myself and he's now got my vote for sure !

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Old 12-09-2013, 12:13 AM #2
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He half looks at the camera, but looks 90% genuine.
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He's a genuine guy for sure.

I don't know if there's more to it.
But if there IS, there's nothing wrong with Abz having a great gameplan.

For me, it's more about Lauren and whether he's sussed her out.
Sure he likes her but personally, I think he has !
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Do you think you may be reading too much into this?
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Possibly !
Feel free to debate...
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I like Abz a lot.
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Carol and Charlotte bitter they didn't get anything
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Carol and Charlotte bitter they didn't get anything
yes. Looks like Abz genuinely likes Lauren.
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Carol and Charlotte bitter they didn't get anything
Charlottes was so funny !

"I don't think I'll get anything we only made friends a couple of days ago."

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Charlottes was so funny !

"I don't think I'll get anything we only made friends a couple of days ago."

She wants an equal playing field!
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Ha ha good one !

One other thing.
Wondering why they showed Louie getting the belt but not Lauren getting the crystal.

Fair TV time maybe ? Could well be.

Just think had it been aired it could have done Lauren's chances of winning the world of good ?
Or would it not have done ?!....
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Ha ha good one !

One other thing.
Wondering why they showed Louie getting the belt but not Lauren getting the crystal.

Fair TV time maybe ? Could well be.

Just think had it been aired it could have done Lauren's chances of winning the world of good ?
Or would it not have done ?!....
Could be tonight that Lauren got the crystal, we are always a day behind.
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urgh hes won it
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urgh hes won it
At lest he's a nice guy and doesn't always bitch and moan like some of them.
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Well hopefully I'm in it next year. I'll show Abz how to be a good contender.
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Well hopefully I'm in it next year. I'll show Abz how to be a good contender.
If Abz wins then Lauren could get in the top three. I think their fans probably like both.
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If Abz wins then Lauren could get in the top three. I think their fans probably like both.
Lauren should still win. Abz will ask people to vote for Lauren, and not him.. you'll see.
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I wish I knew what you were all on about LOL
It's about when Abz told Lauren he wants her to win. Was it genuine or not? I think it was genuine. Abz is a lovely guy.
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Lauren should still win. Abz will ask people to vote for Lauren, and not him.. you'll see.
Yes, i'm still voting Lauren. If she doesn't make the top three then i'll vote Abz.
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At lest he's a nice guy and doesn't always bitch and moan like some of them.
I know, hes probably my 4th favourite of the 13 of them. I just really want Lauren to win!
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Could be tonight that Lauren got the crystal, we are always a day behind.
Yeah but they showed Louie getting the belt on the HL tonight.
I doubt it will be shown.

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urgh hes won it
I'm thinking the opposite and Lauren has won it.

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Abz will ask people to vote for Lauren, and not him.. you'll see.
You could argue he already has !

"The world needs someone like you win this" sounds pretty clear.

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If Abz has left earthly things behind, why on earth did he bring that sparkly belt into the house I have to agree with Louie it was very him...
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This clip completely reaffirms what is obvious to me, that Abz is a very kind and nice person.
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Oh my, OF COURSE it's genuine - how can that not be seen. You'd need to be a cynical old battle axe not to see the truth in Abz' actions. He's spiritually enlightened, he's changed his own script and living true to his inner soul. He could have continued the old story of drinking, negativity, womanising, judgmental actions and greed but he hasn't. He's made a shift, taken a different path, changed his life story and what a remarkable young man he is for that. The most worthy winner...but we'll see x
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