[MeMyselfAndI]

Jun in my opinion is the strongest Big Brother player ever, she planned everything in advance & everyone trusted her. She had all her alliances, stopped alliances when they were no longer needed whilst making other people still believe they were with her. She had zero votes against her throughout the whole season & each eviction she voted for the person who went home & so was always in the majority, she also implemented the floating strategy flawlessly & I believe it's the best strategy I've seen.

The problem with Dr.Will & Dan, is that they were both targets in the first few weeks, and so their gameplay was never perfect, they could have been evicted early on really. Whereas Jun was always pretty much deadset for the finals and was easily the most powerful player throughout


She knew exactly who she needed in the final 2 to have the best shot at winning and Jun NEVER let personal feelings or her dislike for people shade her own game, she disliked Alison and yet still made sure her and Alison would be F2. She also threw competitions she did not need, and made Alison do ALL her dirty work for her (Evict Ericka & Robert). She really is a mastermind.

Jun also was working so hard for Jury votes throughout her stay & was ALWAYS playing the game

She also had the best ever interview with Julie in the HOH proving how smart she is

(At 14:15-17:00)

Youtube video

Do you agree? If not Danielle (BB3) is the best player, both Dr. Will & Dans gameplay is a little overrated imo, although both are fantastic and top 5 players, It's just both Danielle & Jun had everyones trust & no one ever bothered to target EITHER of them, that cannot be said for Dan or Will

[Jack_]

I finished it the other night and that's a fair assessment actually, one I hadn't considered. I did like her but I thought Alison played better (and she was a much better houseguest generally too, it would have been dreadful without her).

[MeMyselfAndI]

What? Jun used Alison to do ALL her dirty work. She purposely threw competitions so that Alison would win. I don't see how Alison can be viewed as a better player tbh, I agree that Alison was very ruthless & better at competitions though

But Jun was close to every jury member basically (Dana, Dream Team, Erika)

[reece(:]

Jun and Alislut best F2 <33333

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't see how someone who loses a 9-1 final vote (and would've lost 10-0 if she was against Jason) is in serious contention for best player ever but okay.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I don't see how someone who loses a 9-1 final vote (and would've lost 10-0 if she was against Jason) is in serious contention for best player ever but okay.

Because the housemates watched ALL the footage including DR's, if you watch the season again your see how almost all the housemates who were evicted were rooting for Danielle, and ended up switching their votes after the footage. I honestly believe Daneille could have won 10-0 had DR not been shown.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I don't see how someone who loses a 9-1 final vote (and would've lost 10-0 if she was against Jason) is in serious contention for best player ever but okay.

She lost because the jury weren't sequestered and because they were all pathetically bitter about her not caring about how many people she stamped on to try and win $500k (I mean hello that is the point of the show)

With the exception of Jason I don't even think the rest of them bothered to play, I mean I liked him but Marcellas not using the Veto claiming he 'couldn't do it to you guys' (about making it more difficult for Jason in naming a replacement) was laughable and that was pretty much the mentality of the entire cast

I know it was the second season of the game but Jesus it was pathetic

[SoBig]

Jun is the best ever? WHAT!?!?!

Did you even watch BB3, BB7, BB10 and BB14?

Jun is nowhere close to Dan, Will or even Danielle Reyes' level.

Blasphemy.

How was Dan's game game play bad at the start of BB10? You do know it was Brian and Ollie that screwed it all up right? Had nothing to do with Dan. Dan was never in danger of being voted out. Even when he was nominated in week 2 all the votes were already secured for him to stay before he even went up on the block as a pawn. Later in the game when Jerry turned on him it wasn't Dan's fault either. It was the whole America's player thing.

Dan's game play in BB10 was perfect from start to finish.

[SoBig]

Jun is the best ever? WHAT!?!?!

Did you even watch BB3, BB7, BB10 and BB14?

Jun is nowhere close to Dan, Will or even Danielle Reyes' level.

Blasphemy.

How was Dan's game game play bad at the start of BB10? You do know it was Brian and Ollie that screwed it all up right? Had nothing to do with Dan. Dan was never in danger of being voted out. Even when he was nominated in week 2 all the votes were already secured for him to stay before he even went up on the block as a pawn. Later in the game when Jerry turned on him it wasn't Dan's fault either. It was the whole America's player thing.

Dan's game play in BB10 was perfect from start to finish.

[MeMyselfAndI]

My opinion, Jun > Dan

She created the floating strategy <33

[Donovan.]

Yeah, I wouldn't say that being nominated early in the game is a sign of bad gameplay. It only takes one person to nominate you, but if you have the votes, you're still in the game and in a reasonably comfortable position.

Anyway, yes Jun was amazing

[MeMyselfAndI]

Jun was the first winner to have zero votes against her all season

[MeMyselfAndI]

And everyone wanted Will out in the first few weeks

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Jun was the first winner to have zero votes against her all season

Dan is the only player to have ZERO votes cast against him in TWO season and is the only winner to have won on a unanimous vote.

Dan>>>>>>>> Jun

Jun isn't even better than Hayden.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Because the housemates watched ALL the footage including DR's, if you watch the season again your see how almost all the housemates who were evicted were rooting for Danielle, and ended up switching their votes after the footage. I honestly believe Daneille could have won 10-0 had DR not been shown.

Originally Posted by Jack_

She lost because the jury weren't sequestered and because they were all pathetically bitter about her not caring about how many people she stamped on to try and win $500k (I mean hello that is the point of the show)

With the exception of Jason I don't even think the rest of them bothered to play, I mean I liked him but Marcellas not using the Veto claiming he 'couldn't do it to you guys' (about making it more difficult for Jason in naming a replacement) was laughable and that was pretty much the mentality of the entire cast

I know it was the second season of the game but Jesus it was pathetic

I'm a well aware of why and how she lost but it's not like it was unfair. It was known that the jury wasn't going to be sequestered since BB2 even, and Danielle clearly didn't factor that fact into her game well enough. Saying "she could've won if they were sequestered" is a bit of a ridiculous argument because the jury was never sequestered up until that point. It's like saying someone on the first season of Survivor could've won if their was a tribe swap. Maybe they could've, but that wasn't even an element of the game so it's just an argument on intangibles.

And it's not like it's unfair that the jury was bitter, that's how things are. The jury didn't exist coming into the game, it is reactionary and the players themselves make the jury. Danielle made them bitter and there's nothing unfair about it.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I'm a well aware of why and how she lost but it's not like it was unfair. It was known that the jury wasn't going to be sequestered since BB2 even, and Danielle clearly didn't factor that fact into her game well enough. Saying "she could've won if they were sequestered" is a bit of a ridiculous argument because the jury was never sequestered up until that point. It's like saying someone on the first season of Survivor could've won if their was a tribe swap. Maybe they could've, but that wasn't even an element of the game so it's just an argument on intangibles.

And it's not like it's unfair that the jury was bitter, that's how things are. The jury didn't exist coming into the game, it is reactionary and the players themselves make the jury. Danielle made them bitter and there's nothing unfair about it.

Danielle said she didn't even watch the first 2 seasons of Big Brother. She didn't even know who Dr. Will was or what the live feeds were.

Danielle played a fantastic game in BB3 and she was certainly robbed, because of a bitter jury. I doubt her DR's played that big of a factor. They were just pissed off that she was the one behind their eviction.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Of course you doubt that, because you want her to have as little responsibility for her own loss as possible.

[Donovan.]

Just, because she didn't watch the first two seasons doesn't make her somehow a better player. It was really only one "game" season that she had missed. It was a fairly new game for all of them.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Jun and Alislut

[Marc]

She's tweeting me. I love