[Smithy]

Basically for the past two years at work, our staff xmas night out has been non existent, 2 years ago nothing was organised at all, then last year, something was done really last minute by the manager who decided to only invite half the staff (to a pub that was just round the corner from where he lived) and even then the only people he invited was only the ones he worked with, he called me up 2 weeks beforehand saying just calling to confirm you're coming and I was like well, 1st of all you didn't invite me to it so i can't confirm it and second of all i'm away so no I can't come

So today I walk into work and they've put up a notice saying that it's happening on Sunday 15th dec, I know I'm not the only one annoyed by it, because i talked with a couple of people who I work with, once again the manager has organised it to suit him, he's done it at a restaurant just round the corner of his house, but 10 miles away from everyone else, because he lives in a little village that out of town, he's done it on a sunday so that him and the assistant manager/trainee manager are off so won't be tired as such if it'd had been on a day that they were at work and on a canal boat () because he's always wanted to go drinking on one

So we're all just a bit pissed off, cause surely a staff night out should have suggestions from the staff of when/where to go and what to do rather than just have him do it all to suit himself. Basically he's just pissed off all of the night staff

[Kate!]

Sounds an ignorant pig, hasn't a clue how to win friends and influence people.

Have your own informal night out, mutually arranged and don't bother with his.

[Gstar]

Plan your own that fits around you, but make sure it clashes with your managers schedule

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Sounds an ignorant pig, hasn't a clue how to win friends and influence people.

Have your own informal night out, mutually arranged and don't bother with his.

Originally Posted by Germyle

Plan your own that fits around you, but make sure it clashes with your managers schedule

That's pretty much exactly how he is kate

I was thinking about doing that too, I'll ask a few more people and see what they think, but i think we probably will end up doing that

I can just see it causing more drama at work though

[GypsyGoth]

He must realise that he's being inconvenient to everyone else.

And I think you should let someone else mention it to him.

[Ninastar]

hold him hostage

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

hold him hostage

[Kate!]

He sounds like David Brent from The Office

Bet nobody likes him.

[Kizzy]

Suggest a staff meeting about it if more staff are unhappy about it than are so you have time to organise something else?

[Brother Leon]

Perks of being the Manager I suppose lol.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Perks of being the Manager I suppose lol.

I preferred the one with Emma Watson in.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Smithy

That's pretty much exactly how he is kate

I was thinking about doing that too, I'll ask a few more people and see what they think, but i think we probably will end up doing that

I can just see it causing more drama at work though

Maybe if it does cause some drama, he might have the realisation that people are not happy with arrangements and make him think. I suppose it's an indirect way of doing things without confrontation.

[Me. I Am Salman]

organise one yourselves and go without him

[the truth]

ask him politely if he would consider having this at a place more convenient to all the staff...see what he says....maybe he hasn't even given it much thought

[Ammi]

...hmmm, I do think it’s a bit of a difficult one Smithy because it’s not uncommon for bosses or people arranging company get togethers to choose somewhere most convenient to them... I’m not saying it isn’t inconsiderate because I do think it is but it’s just not that unusual...the thing is that if you arrange something separate which is more convenient for you and a few others, that can end up causing more bad feeling as well and just making it worse ...that’s happened where I work, because ‘pleasing’ everyone is so hard/impossible to do and to a certain extent, it’s best not to try as you never will/I’ve had nightmares trying to arrange work things before..but two separate things can create a ‘them and us’ situation which is never a good thing in a working environment/or any environment....anyway, he may not be open to discussing it at all but if it was me I would first..(and maybe one or two others with you..) just open a conversation with him about how you would all like to go but 10 miles/taxi costs/transport time etc would be difficult so as there is still a bit of time to look for venues, how would it be if you all looked for somewhere around midway between you all...5 miles travelling for all..?...and also say that you think that seems reasonable as it was in a certain area for the last two years which isn't convenient to everyone, so having it more 'midway' will make it open to more people...which is obviously, as he'll appreciate the point of these social/work get togethers...?....

[Cherie]

Totall agree with Ammi, organising a night out that suits everyone can be a bit of a nightmare, so sometimes it is better just to choose a location, date and venue without consulting everyone, it may not be fair but it takes out all the arguing out of the equation. You could ask him politely why he didn't canvas staff, and then say equally politely that it doesn't suit you, and ask him if you can organise the next one, having said that be prepared for whining about the date, the time, the location, the food, and the venue.

[AnnieK]

Our Christmas dos are always just announced, no consultation BUT they do lay on transport for us. I live about 8 miles from anyone else so I always have furthest to go but if I don't want to go I don't have to. Bringing it up could just cause awkwardness for you.