[MeMyselfAndI]

Part of Jacks massive paragraphs on page 9, I stopped reading after that ludicrous lie.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I'm not going to be plussing Gary at all now, He was one of my favorites watching the series off TiBB, but coming on here has made me not like him anymore
Anyone but Peter/Alec/Gary to win, I'll plus whoever is left bar them in the f3

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

I'm not going to be plussing Gary at all now, He was one of my favorites watching the series off TiBB, but coming on here has made me not like him anymore
Anyone but Peter/Alec/Gary to win, I'll plus whoever is left bar them in the f3

I don't think that matters since the top three will be those three unfortunately

[Macie Lightfoot]

Jillian Won The Money But Not The Game

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I don't think that matters since the top three will be those three unfortunately

Well in the top 4, we can all join together and plus that fourth one (Likely Suzette/Talla)

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Talla, Andrew, Jillian & Emmet were the stars AND best players as they were original f4

Talla was hilarious and Andrew likeable but they were supporting characters, the former having random drunken antics every couple of episodes and the latter being Jemmett's lapdog. Jill and Emmett were the stars, they just supported them. They seriously didn't contribute as much as Jemmett did

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Jillian played a great game. FACT. She was responsible for getting rid of all those sour faced losers

She played Emmett's game, I've already explained this in better detail than I'm going to here.

I respect her comp wins and I respect their game as a power couple a hell of a lot, how none of the others thought to put them up is beyond me, they deserved to lose. But Jill's solo game is seriously overrated and no this is not me being bitter since I DID say this whilst the season was on-going in the last few weeks

Emmett played the best game, that is indisputable. He was unlucky to lose the final HoH to Gary in all honesty. Jemmett as a duo played the second best game, but Jill on her own for her dreadful social game alone that left half the jury hating her for constantly lying does not leave her in the top three best players.

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

And this game has been ruined, bravo

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 8 +
Emmett - 7
Gary - 32
Peter - 18 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

How has it been ruined? If people don't want certain people to do well, post more. As I've also already said, I've only been posting so much since some others were doing it first in an attempt to get Peter out. It works both ways

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Except I don't excessively use ****** and the only "questionable" post I made was the completely valid point that Dan Gheesling losing a social game to someone on the autism spectrum shows that he sucks. Keep grasping at straws tho

Except you do and if I had access to my laptop right now I'd collate some posts

That wasn't the only post either there's been more since then, look I'm not sure if in the US the term ****** is considered offensive or not but it is in the UK

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

I can't take your posts seriously Jack when you think Liza contributed more to the show than Topaz & Talla.
Especially considering Topaz has the most memorable moment of the season (I don't even like her)

One moment at the end of the season doesn't mean her contribution throughout the entire season was a lot

I didn't even like Liza that much but the reasons I said Gary, Suzette, Peter and Alec, Jemmett and Tom and Liza contributed the most is because the show DID revolve around all of them (Liza was the hated bitch in the middle weeks and her relationships with Tom and Peter were big parts of the episodes), the rest are supporting characters (which again I all loved since I love this cast, but I'm sorry from a how much did the show centre around them standpoint, they didn't compare)

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Even more hilarious when Jack is the forum spokesperson for dreaded "talking points"

*makes point about you trolling by dragging members names up in threads and making baiting comments about their opinions*

*goes and does just that*

Once again, keep my name out of your mouth. Thanks

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Jillian DID win the game & the money, that is proof that your bitter #justsaying
It's an actual fact, It's not subjective, she won the show, It was aired, millions saw it.

If I was really that bitter I wouldn't have watched the infamous moment back since and both enjoyed it and laughed at it. I'm over it, it's a TV show ffs

Also, she actually didn't win because as with almost every aspect of life, the intent of an action is far more important than the actual outcome or consequence

Topaz intended to vote for Gary, he therefore had four votes in order to win. What actually happened comes second, yes she won the money and got the confetti because she HAD to, but she did not win because she did not win four jury votes.

If someone intends to commit a murder and plots it, then goes out planning to go ahead with it but chickens out at the last minute, and then the police find out...you WILL be arrested and charged with intent to murder, since that's what you were going to do and that's more important than what you actually did.

Similarly, if I went to a shop with the intention of buying my mum a certain present only to find out it had sold out and I had no time to get that thing, the intention counts a lot more than what actually happened. Not a great analogy but my point is that intent > result, in most aspects of life. The jury voting is the same, yes she got four votes and won the money and the title, but she didn't actually play a good enough game to actually secure four jury votes without needing a misvote to happen. I'm sorry but you can't deny this

I don't care that she won since it's a TV show and it's long over and plus she was by default one of the better players since she actually bothered to play whereas everyone with the exception of her, Emmett, Gary and Tom (even if his game was dreadful) didn't do anything, therefore I'm glad she took it over let's say Talla, but her game is still overrated and she didn't actually persuade four jurors to intend to cast their votes for her, even she would admit this

[Jack_]

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7 (-)
Emmett - 7
Gary - 34 (+)
Peter - 17
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

[Macie Lightfoot]

I really don't know what show you were watching if you really think it revolved around LIZA yet Talla was a supporting character.

And you can say all you want about Emmett playing the best game but he sealed his own fate evicting Talla and then getting an easy question wrong in the final HoH.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I really don't know what show you were watching if you really think it revolved around LIZA yet Talla was a supporting character.

And you can say all you want about Emmett playing the best game but he sealed his own fate evicting Talla and then getting an easy question wrong in the final HoH.

[Black Dagger]

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 6 -
Emmett - 7
Gary - 34
Peter - 18 +
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

[Black Dagger]

Troy you are boring, simmer down xo.

[MeMyselfAndI]

No offense, but you've contradicted yourself SO much in this thread. Putting Jillian in with the characters as too why you liked this season, and saying how there is no way Kat/Danielle/Aneal should beat Peter, yet you minussed her over them, and no you started this. People were minussing Peter as we don't like him, you were minussing Jillian because the people who didn't like Peter happened to like Jillian.

And I disagree with everything you said, Jillian, Emmet, Talla & Andrew were the stars.
Peter was a supporting character

[MeMyselfAndI]

Jillian did win
Theres no two ways about it, she WON the show. It's just a fact, no matter how you go about it, you're just wrong.

The winner of the game wins the prize, Jillian won the prize, there would be a lawsuit if they just awarded someone random the prize, the winner of the game has to get the prize, which Jillian got. She won, fact. Anything you say otherwise is simply a lie.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Troy you are boring, simmer down xo.

I guess you've already run out of prerecorded comebacks that we're back at "simmer down xo" again

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I really don't know what show you were watching if you really think it revolved around LIZA yet Talla was a supporting character.

And you can say all you want about Emmett playing the best game but he sealed his own fate evicting Talla and then getting an easy question wrong in the final HoH.

This is 100% true & I rarely agree with him, no point telling him to simmer down when I think the majority of viewers will agree. The cast members I always forget are Aneal & Liza when I try to remember 15.

EVERYONE remembers Talla, shes probably the second most memorable after Gary

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I really don't know what show you were watching if you really think it revolved around LIZA yet Talla was a supporting character.

And you can say all you want about Emmett playing the best game but he sealed his own fate evicting Talla and then getting an easy question wrong in the final HoH.

The whole show didn't, but when her and Tom were at their peak she was contributing a lot more storyline wise than Talla was who was always just the drunk girl who occasionally had some hilarious moments. She didn't actually have a storyline now did she?

Well we all know he should have evicted Gary since he wasn't stupid enough to take Emmett but thankfully he managed to convince him that he would, so that's why he didn't evict him and tbh at that point he had no reason to think otherwise since him and Gary had always had a good relationship, Gary had always expressed his indifference/bordering on dislike for Jill to him, and because Talla would DEFINITELY not have taken him, so tbh having two people he thought would take him to F2 as opposed to only guaranteeing one, then yeah I can see why he evicted Talla

[MeMyselfAndI]

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7 +
Emmett - 7
Gary - 34
Peter - 17 -
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I guess you've already run out of prerecorded comebacks that we're back at "simmer down xo" again

I don't want to waste my time thinking up new ones for you, you're just tedious and lol at prerecorded when you repeat yourself on the daily babes. yawn xxxxx

[MeMyselfAndI]

Jillian & Emmet were the two best players of the game, It was very evident, which is why they both spent the most days in the house, and were immune practically every week

[Marc]

AJ - 10
Alec - 10
Andrew - 7
Emmett - 7
Gary - 35 (+)
Peter - 16 (-)
Suzette - 27
Talla - 17

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The whole show didn't, but when her and Tom were at their peak she was contributing a lot more storyline wise than Talla was who was always just the drunk girl who occasionally had some hilarious moments. She didn't actually have a storyline now did she?

Well we all know he should have evicted Gary since he wasn't stupid enough to take Emmett but thankfully he managed to convince him that he would, so that's why he didn't evict him and tbh at that point he had no reason to think otherwise since him and Gary had always had a good relationship, Gary had always expressed his indifference/bordering on dislike for Jill to him, and because Talla would DEFINITELY not have taken him, so tbh having two people he thought would take him to F2 as opposed to only guaranteeing one, then yeah I can see why he evicted Talla

Liza didn't contribute anything. She was boring and forgettable and an early boot who was ultimately irrelevant to the grand scheme of things. Like come on, your "love triangle" (seriously after this and Charlie/Callum/Dexter I never want to see another love triangle ever again) consisted of TOM and PETER that speaks enough about your worth. Compared to Talla, who was consistently entertaining and provided dozens of talking points (which when you would constantly lecture me about how I watch Big Brother wrong (holylol @ unironically telling someone that they're watching TV wrong), you would emphasize that the show revolves around talking points and needs them to survive and whatever other bull**** you spew) and was actually the big character you pretend others like Emmett, Jillian, Alec, and Peter were.

And yes, Emmett evicted the girl who did not win a single Competition and would nearly guarantee a Jemmett final HoH over the guy who actually tried to play the game, especially after his brother warned him not to trust the gay guy. Well played

[Josiah.]

I'm trying not to be rude but... Jack, Troy, and MMI, please stop the fighting immediately!

I really do not want the mods to close this thread because of a HUGE argument/debate. So, PLEASE go back to being NICE PEOPLE and play the game without b****ing.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

No offense, but you've contradicted yourself SO much in this thread. Putting Jillian in with the characters as too why you liked this season, and saying how there is no way Kat/Danielle/Aneal should beat Peter, yet you minussed her over them, and no you started this. People were minussing Peter as we don't like him, you were minussing Jillian because the people who didn't like Peter happened to like Jillian.

And I disagree with everything you said, Jillian, Emmet, Talla & Andrew were the stars.
Peter was a supporting character

I explained on one of the first few pages why I targeted Jillian? You're rewriting what's actually happened in this thread

I would have targeted Kat first since she was the most irrelevant, but NO ONE was going to be bothered enough to minus her and so someone like Peter WOULD have left before, therefore I thought well Jill has more detractors so let's try her, and they went along with it

I didn't even plan on voting as much as I have done in the beginning as I've also already explained before, the only reason I've done so since is because it was started by other people, a few nights ago Troy said he wasn't going to allow Jill to leave first and spent every hour of the UK early hours -ing Peter and plussing her so she wouldn't be out, I woke up and Peter was nearly out so I thought well the only way this is going to be stopped is if I do the same. Then the other night lostalex said he was going to 'destroy' Peter and did exactly the same due to time zone differences, so I had to retaliate by doing the same. I didn't start the excessive voting that's a total lie, I reacted to it. That's what actually happened.

Peter was not in any way a supporting character that's just false, I want to make this clear because people don't seem to be able to read, I did not or do not rate his game, I'm voting in this on contribution to the season as I always do with any BB that I watch. You cannot deny the amount of stuff he contributed to the episodes, whether you found that annoying or not is irrelevant, it was still there. You don't have to like him but he WAS a big character contribution wise, that's it

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Jillian did win
Theres no two ways about it, she WON the show. It's just a fact, no matter how you go about it, you're just wrong.

The winner of the game wins the prize, Jillian won the prize, there would be a lawsuit if they just awarded someone random the prize, the winner of the game has to get the prize, which Jillian got. She won, fact. Anything you say otherwise is simply a lie.

Okay just choose to ignore everything I said and actually what you've said I'm not even disputing so?

I know she won the show, I know she won the money, I know they couldn't have reversed the vote (hence why I said she HAD to win after that), but I'm sorry, she didn't get four jurors to intend to vote for her. You can't shy away from this even she would admit it herself ffs, yes she'll take the win and yes she did win in reality but she did not play a good enough game to win without needing a misvote to happen, you can't just ignore that. Once again, the intent of an action is almost always more important than what actually happens

[Josiah.]

Um, Jack; look at the post I made above yours.

[MeMyselfAndI]

She played a good enough game to get f2, and her opponent did'nt play a good game, as he got evicted. Therefore she played a better game, It was very similar to BB3 USA, a bitter jury, not voting on the game. Thankfully a mistake was made, and history did not repeat itself