[Nemo123]

I may be amnesiac and a bit of a drunk, but I'm sure I commented on this. Have I been wiped?
A chap called Malcolm "Mac" Wallace fired the shots from the book depository in Dallas Texas, almost 50 years ago to the day. He was the same guy who killed Lyndon Baines' Johnson's sister's boyfriend years earlier. And most probably LBJ's sister. He was convicted of the former charge and was facing the death penalty, yet he got away with a 5 year sentence, suspended I think.

LBJ has a murder count of 8 to his name, allegedly.

There was one fingerprint taken from the surrounds of the depository window in Dallas, the one where Oswald was suppose to have shot Kennedy from. It could not be matched, then. Years later a fingerprint expert made a 14 point match with Malcolm Wallace. A 12 point match is regarded as conclusive. Wallace had a history with President Johnson. Johnson came out of a meeting with Dallas oilmen on the eve of Kennedy's death, boasting that "SOB" would not trouble him again.

Kennedy was hated by so many powerful people. Apart from Johnson, Allen Dulles, the head of the CIA had reason to kill him. Kennedy was going to disband the CIA. The CIA were actively trying to assassinate Castro. They had a full time team working on it, and George HW Bush was the top man, President George Bush, the senior. There were many and divers reasons why certain people hated Kennedy. The Mob hated Kennedy, because he took them on. J Edgar Hoover hated the Kennedys, because they were usurping his authority.

He had too many enemies, and too few friends. Ultimately, LBJ ordered his killing, and all the forces of Law and "so-called" order fell into line. As Oliver Stone said in his film, "JFK", Kennedy was the victim of a coup d'etat, where a lot of forces, some more active, and some more compliant, conspired to kill the President Of The United States, and got away with it.

[Nemo123]

Kennedy was on the point of doing a number of unpopular things. He was going to reduce a subsidy to the oilmen, Johnson's people, which would have cost them billions, he was going to disband the CIA, and he was going to pull the US out of Vietnam.

All these plans he was going to execute imminently were stopped and reversed by Lyndon Baines Johnson, by having him killed.

[GiRTh]

I love a good conspiracy theory.

So you think Kennedy death was planned by LB?. Do you think a VP can have enough power to pull off something like this ?

[Nemo123]

Did you know that people wept when he was killed. Just like Diana. Do you know the respect the office of the President use to hold? Killing the President was akin to killing the Pope. Nowadays I doubt people would care too much if either were killed.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I love a good conspiracy theory.

So you think Kennedy death was planned by LB?. Do you think a VP can have enough power to pull off something like this ?

Oh, absolutely. You see LBJ despised Kennedy and Kennedy knew it, yet he reasoned, I believe, he'd help him reach out to the deep south, and take the edge off his own progressive anti-racist agenda.

[Nemo123]

I have long been fascinated by Kennedy's murder. I've gone from being sure to unsure and back again. A BBC newsreader named Gavin Esler convinced me about 10 years ago, that Oswald was the lone killer. Gavin Esler carries the weight of the BBC, full on his shoulders, so if he says Oswald did it, you believe it.
Gavin Esler is wrong. I'm not sure what his motives are or where, perhaps it helped his career. For a start, The US House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded JFK's death was a conspiracy, in 1978.

So let there be no doubt, a House Select Committee concluded Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone.

That was as far as the evidence permitted them to maintain the lie.
They said there was a fourth bullet, from the "Grassy Knoll".
IT WAS A CONSPIRACY. So says a United States House Select Committee in 1978.

Let me be clear, A UNITED STATES HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE SAID IN 1978, that JFK's murder was as a result of a conspiracy.

[Nemo123]

I gotta ram home this point,

A body appointed by the Senate to reinvestigate the Kennedy assassination, said it was a conspiracy, and there was a fourth or even a fifth bullet.

[Nemo123]

I want to remind all those people who poo-poo the conspiracy theory, A Senate House Committe on assassinations, concluded JFK's killing was a conspiracy, in 1978. It's not even contraversial.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I love a good conspiracy theory.

So you think Kennedy death was planned by LB?. Do you think a VP can have enough power to pull off something like this ?

Well you see Girth, when a vice President kills the President, he becomes the President, and the most powerful person in the world.

Originally Posted by Nemo123

Well you see Girth, when a vice President kills the President, he becomes the President, and the most powerful person in the world.

Except that didn't happen. LHO shot the president, and if you actually knew the details of his life, you'd find it nearly impossible to look beyond that evidence.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Except that didn't happen. LHO shot the president, and if you actually knew the details of his life, you'd find it nearly impossible to look beyond that evidence.

Jesus, you and I know we'll not sort this out here.
But i'll put a few points to you.
LBJ was on the verge of a serious indictment, and was facing a long prison sentence for corruption. The one fingerprint which was not accounted for in the book depository window, belonged to a hitman who worked for LBJ. Had LBJ not killed Kennedy he'd have been indicted for corruption and probably been sentenced to a long prison sentence. People have written tomes about this. What You do and what I've done is try to acquaint myself with the facts by reading and watching as much material as i can about it.

I'll summarize it. LBJ was going to jail. The CIA was going to be disbanded. The CIA were working to overthrow Castro. The oil industry were going to lose huge subsidies under Kennedy. The Mafia were betrayed by the Kennedys. They bought votes for him to win the '60 election, and Robert Kennedy repaid hem by hounding them. J Edgar Hoover openly feuded with the Kennedys. There's more, much more than I could write in a forthnight.

What it all adds up to is a conspiracy to kill JFK. The clincher for me is the finger print of Malcolm Mac Wallace, identified years later, as the only finger print in the window of the Book Depository. This guy killed and was convicted for killing LBJ's sister's boyfriend. He should have been executed, yet he got off with a 5 year sentence. Mac Wallace was a hired killer, and LBJ used him more than once.

[Nemo123]

Need I remind anyone of the presumption of innocence? Lee Harvey Oswald was never tried for killing anyone.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

The Lee Rigby conspiracy.

I don't know it's just weird how some people were casually passing by as the act was supposedly going on or even in the video where the killers are talking on the video.People are just casually passing by the murderers. looking at something on the road for sure, but seemingly not worried about their lives. There was a whole blog about it being fake.


I believe most conspiracies to be fair.

How about one of the teachers that was supposed to have died at Sandy hook shooting was seen at the Boston bombing.

And a child that was supposed to have died at sandy hook was seen on Obama's lap days later.

And yes the towers exploded because of a bomb not the plane.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

Oh, absolutely. You see LBJ despised Kennedy and Kennedy knew it, yet he reasoned, I believe, he'd help him reach out to the deep south, and take the edge off his own progressive anti-racist agenda.

Who the hell is LBJ?

I never believed that that Oswald fella killed Kennedy. It's too convenient. Especially with the way a random killed him quickly after. I always believed it was to shut him up so the truth wouldn't come out.

The theme seems to be whenever a certain person appears to be a constant nuissance to Authorities they pin the blame on them to justify arresting them or such. Oswald apparently was a strong supporter of Castro which wasn't going down well, those boston bombers, and these Lee rigby extremists.

[fingers]

Interesting background info on Mac Wallace and LBJ (and the strange death of LBJ's sister)

> http://www.viewzone.com/lbj/

[Livia]

I'm pretty sure Lee Rigby's widow doesn't think it never happened.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm pretty sure Lee Rigby's widow doesn't think it never happened.

That's why the Rigby family are attending the trial of the 2 (alleged, since they haven't been convicted -YET) murderers.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm pretty sure Lee Rigby's widow doesn't think it never happened.

Well there's always actors involved in these apparently. Like many of the sometimes "Polished" families we see releasing statements to ask for privacy or such are actors.

Like for one of the parents of one of the kids that died in Sandy hook. Seconds before they were due to go on air, they were laughing, then when it was lights. Sad face, tears...

Not saying the Lee Rigby story is completely fake but if the government want ti make something happen they do it, and they let us read what they want us to read.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

Well you see Girth, when a vice President kills the President, he becomes the President, and the most powerful person in the world.

He can also, 4 years later, prevent the truth about a deadly attack on an American Naval Vessel from damaging relations between countries and possible annoyance to lobbyists in his own country. It was only 34 sailors who died!

> http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ssliberty.html

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

Need I remind anyone of the presumption of innocence? Lee Harvey Oswald was never tried for killing anyone.

Yeah he was killed by some random before he could make a case for himself.

[King Gizzard]

I reckon George Osbourne is secretly a cold blooded bastard lizard who's sole purpose in life is to cause misery for whoever he lays his eyes on

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Well there's always actors involved in these apparently. Like many of the sometimes "Polished" families we see releasing statements to ask for privacy or such are actors.

Like for one of the parents of one of the kids that died in Sandy hook. Seconds before they were due to go on air, they were laughing, then when it was lights. Sad face, tears...

Not saying the Lee Rigby story is completely fake but if the government want ti make something happen they do it, and they let us read what they want us to read.

Youtube video

Do you mean this?

I was not aware of this but now have to admit that was strange behaviour for someone who's just lost a 6 year old.

I love a good conspiracy theory.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Youtube video

Do you mean this?

I was not aware of this but now have to admit that was strange behaviour for someone who's just lost a 6 year old.

I love a good conspiracy theory.

That's the one. It's from a good 30-45 mins documentary.

There was a bit about the squad practicing for the very same type of rescue a month or so earlier like they knew it would happen and other bunch of things that make you think, hold on a mins.

[GiRTh]

I think I'll take a look that

[fingers]

Originally Posted by fingers

He can also, 4 years later, prevent the truth about a deadly attack on an American Naval Vessel from damaging relations between countries and possible annoyance to lobbyists in his own country. It was only 34 sailors who died!

> http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ssliberty.html

For some reason the video in the above link is truncated, this is the complete video, make up your own minds who is telling the truth

>

Youtube video