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Old 10-12-2013, 05:52 AM #1
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Default Comic Relief invests millions in arms, tobacco and alcohol..?...

Comic Relief was yesterday accused of misleading donors by investing millions of pounds raised during televised appeals in tobacco, alcohol and the arms industry.

The charity – which claims that ‘every penny’ given by the public helps good causes – pumps cash into the companies even as it backs projects to help victims of smoking-related illnesses, alcohol abuse and war.

According to a BBC Panorama expose, the charity is also sitting on £100million donated by the public and refuses to say how the money is being invested.

The returns on the charity’s investments are used to fund its ballooning running costs, which have hit £17million a year, largely because its wage bill has nearly doubled in four years.

The damning revelations will be made tonight in a Panorama investigation which was initially shelved for two months because executives at the Corporation were anxious about offending the Comic Relief bosses.

The programme, called All in a Good Cause, will be shown at 10.35pm, two hours later than Panorama normally airs.

It also claims Save the Children censored its criticism of the energy industry because of its cosy relationship with British Gas and EDF, and alleges Amnesty misled the public over £800,000 payoffs to two former bosses


Comic Relief has raised nearly a billion pounds to tackle poverty and social injustice in the UK and abroad since it was launched in 1985 in response to the famine in Ethiopia.

This year’s Red Nose Day raised more than £100million after an eight-hour show on BBC1 and BBC2 fronted by presenters including Lenny Henry, Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross


During Comic Relief broadcasts, celebrities including David Beckham, Jennifer Saunders and Graham Norton have repeated the charity’s pledge that ‘for every pound the charity gets directly from the public a pound goes to helping transform the lives of people living with poverty and social injustice’. But the charity’s latest accounts show it employs nearly 300 people with a £13million annual wage bill.

Chief executive Kevin Cahill’s pay has increased from £111,000 to £131,000 since 2008, with five directors earning more than £80,000


To fund the spiralling wage packets, Comic Relief invests millions of pounds of donations in the stock market while deciding how to distribute it to other charities and worthy projects.

According to their online accounts from 2007 to 2009, it invested millions in managed funds known in the City as ‘booze, bombs and fags’ funds because they in turn invest the money into company shares including alcohol, arms and tobacco.

Comic Relief had £2.7million in three tobacco firms in 2009 while at the same time giving more than £300,000 to the charity Target Tuberculosis, which warns that smoking may be responsible for more than one in five TB cases worldwide.

Dragons’ Den star Duncan Bannatyne, who was a Comic Relief trustee in 2009 – and remains an honorary trustee – has campaigned against smoking and specifically British American Tobacco, the largest beneficiary of Comic Relief’s tobacco investments.

Confronted by Panorama, Mr Bannatyne said he did not agree with the investments and he believed the charity should invest ethically. He added: ‘If we can find out a way to not do it indirectly, then we’ll do it.’

Comic Relief also had £310,000 invested in alcohol manufacturing firm Diageo, despite the charity’s claim that it works to ‘reduce alcohol misuse and minimise alcohol-related harm’.

The charity’s mission statement also promises to help ‘people affected by conflict’, but in 2009 it had £630,000 invested in shares in BAE Systems, one of the world’s leading weapons manufacturers.

Since 2009, Comic Relief has changed the way it publishes its accounts online so it is impossible for the public to tell what funds it currently invests in.

The charity refused to say whether the money it currently holds – more than £100million – was invested in shares in alcohol, arms or tobacco companies. It said it was ‘too time-consuming’ to include the information in the trustees’ reports

She warned that by not investing ethically, Comic Relief was ‘risking their reputation, and a charity’s reputation is very precious’.

Comic Relief said: ‘Because the range of issues we support is so broad, ethical screening would significantly limit our ability to invest as well as seriously increase financial risk.

'We do not invest directly in any individual company. We believe this approach has delivered the greatest benefits to the most vulnerable people

From the moment Comic Relief was launched in a Sudanese refugee camp on Christmas Day 28 years ago, the country’s highest-profile telethon has harnessed the power of celebrity to promote itself as a virtuous force for good in a gloomy world.

Over the years, Red Nose Day has become a British institution. Prime ministers, pop stars and television presenters perform jolly japes on screen, while from schools to offices people are encouraged to dress up for fund-raising stunts.

Using the unrivalled platform presented by our state broadcaster, Comic Relief has raised an incredible £900million from the generous British public.

No other charity gets such privileged exposure. But then stars such as Jennifer Saunders, Graham Norton and David Beckham repeatedly parrot the core pledge that every penny goes straight to those who need it.

Now, thanks – ironically – to a BBC Panorama programme which airs tonight, we discover this is not quite the whole truth. It has established that Comic Relief sits on vast unused funds (currently more than £100million) and, rather disturbingly, refuses to tell the public precisely where it is investing their donations.

Unlike Children in Need and most other major charities, it has put substantial sums into firms selling arms, alcohol and tobacco – even though these conflict with its stated aims of fighting alcohol abuse, conflict and the consequences of smoking.

There is a whiff of hypocrisy from such aggressive investing, and it gets worse – for Comic Relief is growing fat on the profits, which are used in part to pay high salaries and boost staff numbers.

Its wage bill nearly doubled in four years to £13million: its chief executive’s soaring salary stands at £130,823 and another five senior staff earn more than £90,000. This is bad enough, although unsurprising in the bloated aid sector.

But the relationship between the BBC and Comic Relief raises a far more fundamental issue: why does the state broadcaster devote vast slabs of valuable schedules to promote the aid industry’s fiercely contested world view?

There is one message underlying those weeks of excitable Comic Relief build-up, the special editions of hit shows, the political endorsements, the feel-good films of Western stars saving Africa. This is the simplistic idea that torrents of aid are an unalloyed benefit to the world – which is at odds with so much expert evidence and a swelling chorus of critical voices.

Videos satirising events such as Comic Relief have gone viral on the internet; one film features Africans appealing to send radiators to snowy Norway.

Meanwhile, the latest person to highlight what he calls the ‘aid illusion’ is Angus Deaton, a Scots-born economist at Princeton University in America. His trenchant criticism of what he calls neo-colonialism has stunned the aid sector because he was once a true believer; he is probably the world’s greatest expert on measuring global poverty.

In a brilliant new book, Prof Deaton says £3trillion in aid has been blown over the past half-century without any evidence of overall beneficial effect. One of the tragedies of aid, he says, is that dedicated do-gooders end up causing more harm to people already in distress


This is because big aid flows achieve the opposite of their aims by corroding local politics and corrupting democracy. It is profoundly anti-democratic to pour free money into the pockets of poorly run regimes.

In short, it means they have no need to win the good faith of citizens by delivering decent public services based on taxation. I have long made similar arguments, informed by what I have seen reporting from places such as Ghana, Haiti, Kenya, Somalia and Pakistan.

I have been shocked by the activities of some charities, witnessing arrogant contempt for local people and astonishingly wasteful practices.


Behind all the posturing from pop stars and politicians lie rather different realities that might surprise well-meaning Britons giving up time and money for good causes.


A new report revealed yesterday that aid groups in Somalia paid thousands of pounds in ‘registration fees’ to al-Shabaab, the terror gang that slaughtered scores of shoppers – including six Britons – in a Kenyan shopping mall three months ago.

The militant Islamists also plundered the aid itself, taking two-thirds of food supplied to one town so it could feed its own fighters. So why is the BBC taking sides in such an important and complex debate?

Instead of the impartiality directed by its royal charter, it pumps out propaganda for the pro-aid lobby through support for Comic Relief. Perhaps this is unsurprising, given how the two organisations have become entwined. Tim Davie, chief executive of BBC Worldwide, is chairman of Comic Relief, while Bal Samra, the corporation’s commercial director, is on the charity’s investment board.

Given such internal sensitivities, tonight’s Panorama documentary was delayed from October while lawyers and BBC executives argued over the claims made. Comic Relief’s chief executive has already emailed celebrity supporters, warning them of ‘misleading’ stories and urging them to use Twitter to rebut them.

I understand the BBC was threatened that if the allegations were broadcast, Comic Relief might move to a rival broadcaster. The new current affairs team under director-general Tony Hall deserve great credit for standing firm.

But if Comic Relief does not jump ship, I believe the BBC should sever links with it anyway – as I urged the Corporation’s governing trust and its chairman Chris Patten last month during a public discussion of its Africa coverage.

Some charities are good, some are bad – but all should be scrutinised, because combined they form one of the most powerful forces in the modern world.

How else can the well-meaning British public decide where to place their donations?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ney-spent.html




..this was the problem back in the Band Aid days, even though the intentions of those taking part/donating were good..only a small percentage of aid got through...and it's all very corrupt/governments....
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Tbh to state 'every penny' is a bit ambitious and they probably have invested in the above. Maybe without knowing. Who's to know exactly where every penny goes

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once you realize the whole world is corrupt then nothing comes as a surprise.
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Well, what can I say to the above post ? To be honest it doesn't come as too much of a shock to see the vast amounts of money now being received every year. What shocks me though is to see the way is it invested in Companies that sell arms, alcohol , tobacco etc this is absolute hypocrisy and should stop immediately .

Also the amount of money that is siphoned off to pay "wage bills" is equally obscene Clearly now this charity is really now a business like any other not a charity .

As the report goes on to say , giving large amounts of money to undemocratically elected governments helps no one and ensures corrupt practices are maintained.

Perhaps it's time we stopped giving money in all our charity donations , perhaps sending goods or foods or clothes but NOT money...!!!!
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I remember seeing a report once that showed troops taking the aid food and selling it!
we have grain and meat mountains, and yet we still let people starve to death.
population control at its best.
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That awkward moment where all the white executives turn to look at Lenny Henry in the next meeting.
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That awkward moment where all the white executives turn to look at Lenny Henry in the next meeting.
and ask him how he is doing with his premier inn promotion's
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