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18-01-2014, 08:14 AM | #26 | ||
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Luisa claims to be intelligent but she cannot work out that Jim clearly is popular with the viewers after all this time in the house.
As Vanessa says, the more that she and Linda get at Jim the more the viewers who vote get behind him. Now I can fully get how Linda cannot work that out because she is just a nasty,bitter and twisted person with an inability to think and work that out. However Luisa,if she really is as clever as she says she is will only keep pushing the self destruct button if she doesn't hold back a bit at least. Luisa doesn't have to like Jim but she also doesn't have to go on and on about him like Linda does,I also do think she has a problem with older men too in an ageist sense. Last edited by joeysteele; 18-01-2014 at 08:14 AM. |
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18-01-2014, 01:20 PM | #27 | ||
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Luisa is just being herself. What you don't understand is how Jim’s attitudes, which he can't help, irritate the women around him. Jim has said this himself. So with little possibility of escape you get to hate the person is belittles you, dismisses your opinion, and generally ignores you as a person. |
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18-01-2014, 01:36 PM | #28 | |||
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18-01-2014, 02:01 PM | #29 | ||
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18-01-2014, 02:04 PM | #30 | ||
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18-01-2014, 02:09 PM | #31 | |||
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18-01-2014, 02:10 PM | #32 | ||
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Ask yourself how you would feel living in close proximity to someone who ignores you, belittles everything you say? This is how the women see Jim. Even Jim admits that this is how women see him. It is simply what he learned from his father and friends and is deeply part of who he is. |
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18-01-2014, 02:12 PM | #33 | |||
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18-01-2014, 02:13 PM | #34 | |||
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Of course Luisa wants to win. Her main problem is that she fervently believes in free speech and in speaking her mind. Sadly, she doesn't uphold that right for Jim or for anyone else. |
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18-01-2014, 02:13 PM | #35 | |||
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She's right about him being insecure but she definitely can't take it when others give out to her, as has been evident by the number of times she's burst into tears as a response in an argument
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18-01-2014, 02:20 PM | #36 | ||
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I have experienced similar situation so believe I understand it. |
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18-01-2014, 02:22 PM | #37 | |||
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The irony of her saying he can dish it, but can't take it. Says the woman that was in tears wanting to leave whenever someone bites back at her
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18-01-2014, 02:36 PM | #38 | |||
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Her argument with Dappy earlier on in the same day... Don't get me wrong, I completely understand why she was crying, but it's the way she claims she's this hard ass who says it how it is and can take what she gives out when she absolutely can't. She tells it how it is but she cannot bear it when other people point out her flaws and tell her how it is.
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18-01-2014, 02:51 PM | #39 | ||
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Such behaviour is not something people meet outside of school years. I think people are using those time times she has cried to justify their belief she cant take it, because it satisfies what they want to believe rather than see those events as exceptional circumstance. Last edited by MarcusMel; 18-01-2014 at 02:53 PM. |
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18-01-2014, 02:56 PM | #40 | |||
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They made up pretty quick and she didn't nom him so she sorta can take it.
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18-01-2014, 03:00 PM | #41 | |||
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18-01-2014, 03:12 PM | #42 | ||
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We use words like 'must', 'should', 'have' to indicate how important a goal is. The word 'like' is about the lowest level of emotional desire for wanting something. What I am saying is that the reasoning in Joey’s post is based on a level of emotional desire to win BB that Luisa is not displaying. The evidence is clear from the way in which she handles emotionally the eviction crowd noise. |
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18-01-2014, 03:14 PM | #43 | |||
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18-01-2014, 03:20 PM | #44 | ||
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The hardest thing for anybody to do is question their own attitude and understand where they got it from and why it is justified to have it in the situation they find themselves in. |
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18-01-2014, 03:48 PM | #45 | |||
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I hate Jim and do not understand why people like him so much. He's a narcissistic misognistic male chauvinist. He's horrible.
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18-01-2014, 04:01 PM | #46 | ||
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and he hasnt been any of these things in the house. the only sxual discrimination in that house has been against him and also by lionel against asmine |
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18-01-2014, 04:02 PM | #47 | ||
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18-01-2014, 04:04 PM | #48 | |||
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At least ,for the only time I've seen, he apologised to Linda Nolan and accepted responsibilty for actions. Although his motivation may have been more about survival.
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18-01-2014, 04:08 PM | #49 | ||
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First off, she claims to be intelligent, then working out the best strategy to use in a situation you find yourself in would demonstrate that. I never said she had to or should like Jim, however to go on about him,even when there is no connection as to interaction or conversation between the 2 of them shows a rather strange obsessions of sorts and indeed lack of strategy. All she has to do is pull back, have as little to do with him as she needs to and both get on with enjoying the BB experience. My point is that Jim is clearly popular with the viewers who vote,therefore to keep getting at him, she is going to likely continue to pull her own standing with the viewers down further. That seems a daft thing to do,in my opinion, for whether she wants to win BB or even for to have an easier and less stressful time in the house she is going the wrong way about it,in my view. I don't believe a single housemate in there didn't want to try to win it,I don't go for that at all. Also in Luisa's case, she is a fiercely competitive woman,that she showed heavily on the Apprentice, and after losing out in the Apprentice,I doubt in reality that she would not want to win this series if she could. When other than at mealtimes and the tasks, is there any reason for her to really interact with Jim, just pull back. Everytime she gets at him or puts him down to and with others, she gives him airtime and draws attention to him,the end result of which is she has a lower standing with the viewers who vote and he has a much higher one. I don't believe for one second she would like to see Jim win, however she is doing a really good job, in all truth, of likely doing a great deal as to helping him achieve that. If as you say, she doesn't want to win or is not bothered about winning, are you also saying she wouldn't care if Jim were to win. I myself, from my perspective of watching her, believe she would hate that result and my point was that despite being so intelligent she fails to see that is exactly what her actions towards him could well help bring about. I am not bothered as to the boos to her from the crowd, they mean little, they cheered Lionel on friday and he went out in last place. She will I am sure as I can be,(as Jim has), worked out the crowd are not representative of a lot of the standings as to BB housemates. The one thing staring her in the face however, is the fact that she is regularly a housemate always in danger of going as to evictions and Jim is a certain one to well saved,more than likely the current top of the voting too. Are you actually saying you believe she wants that scenario,really. I myself would doubt she does want that scenario and I also believe she would love to win it. I'd go further and say I believe she could even think she should win it. She is a very ambitious lady,nothing wrong in that,however her judgement in the house, (as was on the Apprentice too), seems to leave a fair bit to be desired,again all just my opinion. |
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18-01-2014, 04:09 PM | #50 | ||
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