[lostalex]

I love Luisa. She hasn't lied, hasn't manipulated, she just tells it like it is. Granted she's a bit confrontational, but she's not a bully. Any woman who stands up for herself is seen as an uppity bitch in the UK. She's not a bitch though.

[Slevin]

oh so now its a problem to wanna make money? gmafb. if she thinks she has enough friends and doesnt feel like she has time for anymore then so be it. doesnt make her a bad person. many people have thought at times. rather have a small close knit group of trusted friends than a bunch of fake ass hanger ons.

[Jemal]

Tbh. I dont like her.
But all i want is paper aswell lol.
Money makes life more happier. So why not chase it?

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by coolface
she has a lot of traits of a typical sociopath

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

I believe this as well.

What absolute nonsense. Luisa is nothing like a sociopath. If you had even the most rudimentary understanding of what a sociopath is, you would know that there is a different member of the final five who is displaying some of the behaviour associated with sociopathy. I'm not saying that the person who displays the sociopathic traits is indeed a sociopath. The motivations (subconscious and conscious) behind people's behaviour are not always clear. Sociopaths are manipulative, charming, cunning and lie through their teeth with no conscience, making them very hard to detect. No-one can/should judge based on a selection of snippets which someone else has cut and pasted together to make good viewing in a reality show.

[Livia]

Luisa needs to talk less and read more. She continually used the wrong word in the wrong situation and makes herself look ridiculous. For someone who portrays herself as intelligent, she's pretty thick.

[Blue Cadillac]

Originally Posted by Livia

Luisa needs to talk less and read more. She continually used the wrong word in the wrong situation and makes herself look ridiculous. For someone who portrays herself as intelligent, she's pretty thick.

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

Yes she did say that. She also told Jim last night she was being "colloquial" when I think she meant 'casual'.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

no, i think that was casey.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes she did say that. She also told Jim last night she was being "colloquial" when I think she meant 'casual'.

no, she meant colloquial, and she used the word correctly. She was saying that she was using friendly language with him. So she used the word correctly.

[Slevin]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

Originally Posted by lostalex

no, i think that was casey.

i thought it was Sam cause she was in the DR talking about how she thinks she was nom'd for strategy reasons.

i remember someone in a regular series got the two mixed up as well before. i feel like it was Caroline but im not sure.

[MarcusMel]

Success comes to those who are consistent and persistent.
This is said in Napoleon Hills book think and grow rich.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Blue Cadillac

Is she the house mate who used the word 'tactile' instead of 'tactical' - or was that one of the others?!!!

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes she did say that. She also told Jim last night she was being "colloquial" when I think she meant 'casual'.

No she didn't.

[rionablue]

I love Luisa. Sassy, honest and as other posters have said Im sure she is a very loyal friend. I hope she wins

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by delta

She represents a type of human that we all should steer clear of. There is a difference between being a strong, emancipated, self assured, confident, independent woman and the sh!t stirring, self indulgent, monotoned voiced, moaning, scheming, back stabbing, slag that she is.

A waste of oxygen.

You're my friend for life. That was put so well.

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by coolface

she has a lot of traits of a typical sociopath

Originally Posted by Seraphim

What absolute nonsense. Luisa is nothing like a sociopath. If you had even the most rudimentary understanding of what a sociopath is, you would know that there is a different member of the final five who is displaying some of the behaviour associated with sociopathy. I'm not saying that the person who displays the sociopathic traits is indeed a sociopath. The motivations (subconscious and conscious) behind people's behaviour are not always clear. Sociopaths are manipulative, charming, cunning and lie through their teeth with no conscience, making them very hard to detect. No-one can/should judge based on a selection of snippets which someone else has cut and pasted together to make good viewing in a reality show.

You just described her, along with her extreme boldness, lack of inhibition, and impulsivity. All characteristics of sociopaths. ~1% of the population is made up of sociopaths. They aren't rare, and it doesn't make her a serial killer or something.

I think the average reality TV viewer (not particularly bright, if we're honest) would be astonished at how many sociopaths there are in reality shows. Given their nature, it's not surprising they excel at them.

[Niamh.]

She's being real, they're all out for themselves in there and acting like they're not, Luisa is telling the truth. I hear her talking about her real life loved ones alot

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MrWong

No she didn't.

She did! I said before I hope you never get called as a witness. I'm changing that to I really hope you're never called as a witness.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no, she meant colloquial, and she used the word correctly. She was saying that she was using friendly language with him. So she used the word correctly.

No, alex... that's just not true.

[Niamh.]

the tactile instead of tactical happened in a different series didn't it? I don't think Luisa said that

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

the tactile instead of tactical happened in a different series didn't it? I don't think Luisa said that

Niamh... it was last week!

I can understand people being mesmerised by the Jewish girl, but snap out of it woman!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Niamh... it was last week!

I can understand people being mesmerised by the Jewish girl, but snap out of it woman!

Maybe I missed it then but It definitely happened in another series by someone else as well

[MarcusMel]

Tony Robbins on success.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c169eBsYHG0

[Slevin]

Sam said Jim was being tactile when she meant tactical in the DR about the noms. i dont think Luisa said that. cant find it anywhere on other forums as well if she did and i dont feel like shuffling through eps to find it. Sam did say it and it was laughed on here and other places. yes it was also said in another series. like i said above i think it was Caroline.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Livia

She did! I said before I hope you never get called as a witness. I'm changing that to I really hope you're never called as a witness.

Yeah you said that the other day in the Dappy thread and was proved wrong.

Sam said tactile instead of tactical. Not Luisa.

She was in the diary room and accused Jim of being 'tactile' for nominating her.

I remember thinking at the time that she was going for the Joey Essex stupid vote.

I hope you never get called as a witness.

[Seraphim]

Sociopaths are manipulative, charming, cunning and lie through their teeth with no conscience,

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

You just described her, along with her extreme boldness, lack of inhibition, and impulsivity. All characteristics of sociopaths. ~1% of the population is made up of sociopaths. They aren't rare, and it doesn't make her a serial killer or something.

I think the average reality TV viewer (not particularly bright, if we're honest) would be astonished at how many sociopaths there are in reality shows. Given their nature, it's not surprising they excel at them.

Charming? Really? It's funny that you see her that way when she constantly clashes with people because she's so outspoken and slightly brash.

Lying through her teeth with no conscience? Give me one example.

Manipulative? Everyone exhibits behaviour which can be seen as manipulative, but I don't think Luisa is any different from your average person.

As for this lot:

"extreme boldness, lack of inhibition, and impulsivity."

Drink causes that too, as do loads of other things. I don't really see Luisa as "extremely bold": she likes pushing boundaries, but she knows when to stop. I have also seen how a proper lack of inhibition looks from the inside of a psychiatric assessment unit. Rest assured, it looks different from Luisa.