Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 31-01-2014, 07:46 AM #26
Jesus.
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Jesus.
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

She is hot though.
  Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 31-01-2014, 08:42 AM #27
billy123 billy123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Out here in the perimeter
Posts: 10,448


billy123 billy123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Out here in the perimeter
Posts: 10,448


Default

It will be interesting to see if America obey the extradition laws that they have been abusing for their own ends and means for so long.

Last edited by billy123; 31-01-2014 at 08:42 AM.
billy123 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 31-01-2014, 09:05 AM #28
MrWong's Avatar
MrWong MrWong is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 10,621

Favourites (more):
BB18: Isabelle
BB17: Evelyn
MrWong MrWong is offline
Senior Member
MrWong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 10,621

Favourites (more):
BB18: Isabelle
BB17: Evelyn
Default

Reports in Italy say Sollecito was stopped by police in an area near Udine which is close to the borders of Austria and Slovenia.

http://news.sky.com/story/1204143/ke...pped-at-border
__________________
MrWong is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 31-01-2014, 09:10 AM #29
Nedusa's Avatar
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
Nedusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lostalex View Post
The Kertcher family already has closure. Rudy Guede, the man that raped and murdered their daughter/sister, is already in jail for this murder, and there's no doubt he did it.

Just a random African migrant raping and murdering their daughter is not a big enuf story for them though, it's not nearly as glamorous as blaming the beautiful, white, American girl.

The Kercher's (along with the Italian courts and British media) have turned a crime in which 1 young person was victimized, into a situation where 3 young people people have been victimized. Shame on them.

Good Post...........I pretty much agree with your summation, don't know why the Italian courts won't just let this lie as it is makery their Justice system look even more of a farce than it already is.

And of course now there will be another appeal and then most likely another acquittal........and then another appeal ...on and on and on

I hope the US authorities have a strong word with the Italians and make it very to them that under NO circumstances will they ever allow Amanda Knox to be extradicted back to that Country to stand in yet another Kangaroo court.......!!!!
__________________
Nedusa is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 31-01-2014, 10:44 AM #30
MrWong's Avatar
MrWong MrWong is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 10,621

Favourites (more):
BB18: Isabelle
BB17: Evelyn
MrWong MrWong is offline
Senior Member
MrWong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 10,621

Favourites (more):
BB18: Isabelle
BB17: Evelyn
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lostalex View Post
The Kertcher family already has closure. Rudy Guede, the man that raped and murdered their daughter/sister, is already in jail for this murder, and there's no doubt he did it.

Just a random African migrant raping and murdering their daughter is not a big enuf story for them though, it's not nearly as glamorous as blaming the beautiful, white, American girl.

The Kercher's (along with the Italian courts and British media) have turned a crime in which 1 young person was victimized, into a situation where 3 young people people have been victimized. Shame on them.
The evidence shows that there was more than one person present during the attack though.
__________________
MrWong is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 31-01-2014, 10:06 PM #31
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,768
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,768
Default



arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-02-2014, 03:59 AM #32
lostalex's Avatar
lostalex lostalex is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Posts: 18,029


lostalex lostalex is offline
Senior Member
lostalex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Posts: 18,029


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrWong View Post
The evidence shows that there was more than one person present during the attack though.
Which evidence would that be?
__________________
Don't be afraid to be weak.

Last edited by lostalex; 01-02-2014 at 03:59 AM.
lostalex is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 05:12 AM #33
Sticks's Avatar
Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
Sticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Default

Coming in from this thread, which got derailed
__________________
Cyber Devils Advocate (Retired)


Fame, Riches, Adventure, Glory - A Cyber Warrior craves not these things

In Memorium
Wendy (AKA Romantic Old Bird) 1951 - 2008
Sticks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 05:25 AM #34
Sticks's Avatar
Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
Sticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Default

UPDATE

From the Mirror Website

Quote:
Italy's highest court has overturned the murder conviction against Amanda Knox and her ex-boyfriend, bringing to a definitive end the high-profile case.

The decision by the supreme Court of Cassation is the final ruling in the case, ending the long legal battle waged by Knox and co-defendant Raffaele Sollecito.

Both Ms Knox, who was awaiting the verdict in her US hometown of Seattle, and Mr Sollecito have long maintained their innocence.

The supreme Court of Cassation overturned last year's convictions by a Florence appeals court, and declined to order another trial.
Also from the Mirror website
Quote:
Meredith Kercher's mother 'shocked' after Italian court acquits 27-year-old alongside ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito
Still shell shocked from the ruling, she told reporters: "I can't see how evidence that was once deemed evidence is now no longer thought to be evidence."
The heartbroken mother of murdered student Meredith Kercher has told of her shock after Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were acquitted by Italy's highest court this evening.

The ruling will put a close to the dramatic saga after the pair were initially convicted.

After thoroughly examining the case, the judges concluded that the conviction could not be supported by the evidence.

Reacting to the news, Arline Kercher, from Coulsdon, Surrey, seemed numb as she said: "I am a bit surprised and shocked if I'm honest.

"I don't know what to say.


Still shell shocked from the ruling, she told reporters: "I can't see how evidence that was once deemed evidence is now no longer thought to be evidence."

The heartbroken mother of murdered student Meredith Kercher has told of her shock after Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were acquitted by Italy's highest court this evening.

The ruling will put a close to the dramatic saga after the pair were initially convicted.

After thoroughly examining the case, the judges concluded that the conviction could not be supported by the evidence.

Reacting to the news, Arline Kercher, from Coulsdon, Surrey, seemed numb as she said: "I am a bit surprised and shocked if I'm honest.

"I don't know what to say.

PA Meredith Kercher and her mother Arline celebrating Arline's birthday
Happier times: Meredith Kercher and her mother Arline

"I can't see how evidence that was once deemed evidence is now no longer thought to be evidence.

"I am still shocked."

Talking about the Italian legal system she said: "It is a long drawn out process."

She then added: "If you write anything, never forget Meredith."

Meredith's father John declined to comment this evening.
So my questions are
  • As Meredith was a UK citizens, can we get our police force to pursue Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito with a criminal prosecution. I hear that if a Brit kills a Brit abroad, they can still be charged with murder here in the UK
  • Can the Kercher family now bring a civil suite against Amanda in the US, the threshold for a civil suite is lower
__________________
Cyber Devils Advocate (Retired)


Fame, Riches, Adventure, Glory - A Cyber Warrior craves not these things

In Memorium
Wendy (AKA Romantic Old Bird) 1951 - 2008
Sticks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 05:48 AM #35
Nedusa's Avatar
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
Nedusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Default

No.... They have been cleared

Get over it......
__________________
Nedusa is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 05:54 AM #36
jennyjuniper jennyjuniper is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 4,050
jennyjuniper jennyjuniper is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 4,050
Default

There is enough doubt for me to not be able to say for sure if Amanda Knox is guilty or not. But the thing that left me feeling very uneasy was the fact that hours after the murder Amanda and her boyfriend were seen laughing and joking.
Not enough to label someone as guilty I know, but still.....?
jennyjuniper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 07:35 AM #37
kirklancaster's Avatar
kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
kirklancaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


Default

"She is HOT"?????

She is a cold, seriously terrifying, deeply disturbed psychopath.

Just someone else who has 'got away with murder'.
kirklancaster is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 08:04 AM #38
Sticks's Avatar
Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
Sticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedusa View Post
No.... They have been cleared

Get over it......
Dealing with my second point, I cite as precedence the O J Simpson case. He was acquitted of murder, but then the victim's family successfully went after him with a wrongful death civil suit.

My first point is a "Can they do that"

The relatives of Meredith Kercher (Remember her?) still believe Amanda is guilty as sin, and I suspect someone with those ranks will still try and pursue this, now that the Italian judicial process has come to an end.
__________________
Cyber Devils Advocate (Retired)


Fame, Riches, Adventure, Glory - A Cyber Warrior craves not these things

In Memorium
Wendy (AKA Romantic Old Bird) 1951 - 2008
Sticks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 08:11 AM #39
MTVN's Avatar
MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 56,757

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
MTVN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 56,757

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


Default

Guilty as hell, sad day for Meredith's family
MTVN is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 08:14 AM #40
Sticks's Avatar
Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
Sticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jennyjuniper View Post
There is enough doubt for me to not be able to say for sure if Amanda Knox is guilty or not. But the thing that left me feeling very uneasy was the fact that hours after the murder Amanda and her boyfriend were seen laughing and joking.
Not enough to label someone as guilty I know, but still.....?
Grief and shock can effect people in different ways, plus there is the phenomenon of "distraction activities" where in shock you do things that may seem inappropriate. You can not use that alone to infer guilt.


One thing that I did find odd, re the prosecution, is that they changed their reasons why Amanda and Raphael killed her, from sex game gone wrong to an argument about cleaning.

The Italian Judicial system allows for the challenging of successful appeals. If their case was rock solid, why change the motive? What were they playing at? Is it a case of determining to get a conviction at all costs rather than following the evidence? It is usually the defence that changes their story, not the prosecution.
__________________
Cyber Devils Advocate (Retired)


Fame, Riches, Adventure, Glory - A Cyber Warrior craves not these things

In Memorium
Wendy (AKA Romantic Old Bird) 1951 - 2008
Sticks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 08:20 AM #41
Sticks's Avatar
Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
Sticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Default

For reference how the BBC website is reporting this
__________________
Cyber Devils Advocate (Retired)


Fame, Riches, Adventure, Glory - A Cyber Warrior craves not these things

In Memorium
Wendy (AKA Romantic Old Bird) 1951 - 2008
Sticks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 03:19 PM #42
Anaesthesia's Avatar
Anaesthesia Anaesthesia is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Out There
Posts: 1,005

Favourites (more):
BBUSA21: Kathryn
CBBUSA: Omarosa Manigault
Anaesthesia Anaesthesia is offline
Senior Member
Anaesthesia's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Out There
Posts: 1,005

Favourites (more):
BBUSA21: Kathryn
CBBUSA: Omarosa Manigault
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTVN View Post
Guilty as hell, sad day for Meredith's family
I have to agree, I've read up on this case extensively, and knox contradicts herself repeatedly. There WERE more people involved than Rudy Guede. The evidence of a break-in shows a completely inconsistent glass pattern.

At this level it has to be political, the amount of money to be spent and the damage to international relations in trying to extradite Knox.

I just feel so sorry for the Kerchers, I don't think they will ever find out what happened to Meredith, and I hope it eats at those responsible every single second of every single day. May they never sleep peacefully.
__________________
Supporting the Divine Omarosa.
Anaesthesia is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 03:24 PM #43
Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Vicky. Vicky. is offline
0_o
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 64,533


Default

What a ****ing farce this has all been.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky91 View Post
always cook meals, i did have chinese takeaways the year before the corona **** happened
but now not into takeaways anymore
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
Did you get them delivered from Wuhan?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I would just like to take a second to congratulate Vicky, for creating the first Tibb post that needed chapters and a bibliography.
Vicky. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 03:30 PM #44
Livia's Avatar
Livia Livia is offline
שטח זה להשכרה
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 31,110


Livia Livia is offline
שטח זה להשכרה
Livia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 31,110


Default

I'm confident Knox is guilty. The evidence at the apartment alone would be enough for me to believe beyond reasonable doubt that she's as guilty as sin.
Livia is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 03:39 PM #45
Anaesthesia's Avatar
Anaesthesia Anaesthesia is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Out There
Posts: 1,005

Favourites (more):
BBUSA21: Kathryn
CBBUSA: Omarosa Manigault
Anaesthesia Anaesthesia is offline
Senior Member
Anaesthesia's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Out There
Posts: 1,005

Favourites (more):
BBUSA21: Kathryn
CBBUSA: Omarosa Manigault
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
I'm confident Knox is guilty. The evidence at the apartment alone would be enough for me to believe beyond reasonable doubt that she's as guilty as sin.
She was there, she knows what happened, and yes, I would go so far as to agree with you that she had a part in Meredith's murder, probably go further in that I believe she instigated it. I feel devastated for the Kerchers.

When the reasoning is published, which I eagerly await, I think it will all hinge on the possible contamination of DNA evidence...nothing whatsoever to do with Knox's sh*tty alibi, the contradictions, and the overwhelming evidence that the break in was staged.

If I'm angry with the Italian system for anything, it's for not securing the evidence sooner.

Knox and Sollecito can burn in Hell.
__________________
Supporting the Divine Omarosa.
Anaesthesia is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 05:45 PM #46
Sticks's Avatar
Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Sticks Sticks is offline
Cyber Warrior
Sticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 10,132


Default

I wonder if we should press for West Yorkshire Police to investigate Meredith's murder, as she came from Leeds, and press them to get international arrest warrants for Knox and Solecitto

I would also advice the Kerchers to sue Knox in the civil courts for wrongful death as the threshold is lower.
__________________
Cyber Devils Advocate (Retired)


Fame, Riches, Adventure, Glory - A Cyber Warrior craves not these things

In Memorium
Wendy (AKA Romantic Old Bird) 1951 - 2008
Sticks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 06:02 PM #47
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 93,225


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 93,225


Default

good to see this has finally ended
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 06:07 PM #48
Anaesthesia's Avatar
Anaesthesia Anaesthesia is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Out There
Posts: 1,005

Favourites (more):
BBUSA21: Kathryn
CBBUSA: Omarosa Manigault
Anaesthesia Anaesthesia is offline
Senior Member
Anaesthesia's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Out There
Posts: 1,005

Favourites (more):
BBUSA21: Kathryn
CBBUSA: Omarosa Manigault
Default

It hasn't ended. How can it?

Rudy Guede did not act alone. So if Knox and Sollecito are innocent, there is, somewhere out there, a co-conspirator to murder. If it was your child, would you consider it ended?
__________________
Supporting the Divine Omarosa.
Anaesthesia is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 06:10 PM #49
Nedusa's Avatar
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Nedusa Nedusa is offline
Senior Member
Nedusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: London
Posts: 4,347

Favourites (more):
CBB 10: Julian Clary
BB13: Luke A
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
Dealing with my second point, I cite as precedence the O J Simpson case. He was acquitted of murder, but then the victim's family successfully went after him with a wrongful death civil suit.

My first point is a "Can they do that"

The relatives of Meredith Kercher (Remember her?) still believe Amanda is guilty as sin, and I suspect someone with those ranks will still try and pursue this, now that the Italian judicial process has come to an end.
Oh for God's sake.... She has been acquitted twice

It is all over.... Please move on this story is a story no more.

Time to move on.
__________________
Nedusa is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 28-03-2015, 06:20 PM #50
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 93,225


LeatherTrumpet LeatherTrumpet is offline
You know my methods
LeatherTrumpet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 93,225


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anaesthesia View Post
It hasn't ended. How can it?

Rudy Guede did not act alone. So if Knox and Sollecito are innocent, there is, somewhere out there, a co-conspirator to murder. If it was your child, would you consider it ended?
i mean for the falsely accused
LeatherTrumpet is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
amanda, final, found, guilty, italy, knox, lover, murder, raffaele, retrial, reunited, sollecito, verdict


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:18 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts