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Old 09-02-2014, 08:55 AM #51
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..I’ve given this a lot of thought before properly commenting because of my own personal experiences with my job..I do agree that the Xbox/porn isn’t what’s responsible here but an obvious lack of parental involvement with children so young and vulnerable...but as much as it’s dismissive to any underlying problems/issue which there obviously are within the family to blame porn...it’s also in my opinion, equally dismissive and judgemental to blame the parents in that I don’t think that the sister is the only victim here...I don’t believe that generally, people are ‘born bad/a bad seed’ or whatever..I think that mostly they are victims of their environment and I think that it’s quite likely that his whole environment has been a contributory factor and that his life has not been given the balance of a caring and nurturing parent and influence, which most of us have or have had...and maybe because of that, in a way porn and the internet and any other influences that may be negative, both inside the family home and outside of it will have a bearing...I think though, that it’s also quite possible that his parents struggle as well and maybe they themselves are victims of their environment and their own upbringing, and so it goes on and creates a whole family in need of help, which unfortunately is not always detected until something truly dreadful and damaging like this happens...


..it kind of shows that thing about how much responsibility we have to our children.. to their physical and emotional health and also how much can be transferred to them if we forget that or are unable/incapable of actively bringing a positive balance to their lives and also taking time to spend with them and being interested in everything they do...and also shows that many people indeed can have children but not all of them are ‘parents’...yes, I do think that a parental control could have been used, that’s fairly widely known but I think there are issues within the family that meant that it wasn’t used..maybe because that would have meant giving time to the children/paying attention..?...who knows...but I also think that there is a good possibility that the whole family are victims in this case, as unfortunately and sadly it is with many cases..and quite possibly they are all ‘victims’ and obviously none more than the sister ...the whole family is in need of help, I think and I hope they get it and I hope that the parents are open to realising how much they need it and accept the damage that their lack of parenting has caused...I don’t think with adults, it’s much different than with children in that there is no point in screaming at them and saying ‘you’ve been bad/how stupid have you been..’ and judging them because that will achieve nothing...they need help and understanding of the consequences of their parenting and help in finding a way forward for all of them...also because the little girl is still in their care....


..obviously I don't know for sure but I don't think this boy is 'bad' but just hasn't had in his life what a 13yr old boy should have had and unfortunately it's not what all parents are able to give or have their own capabilities of giving...
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I didn't notice it had happened before...

'In November last year a 12-year-old boy admitted three charges of rape against his sister, aged under 10, after he watched pornography at school and went home to copy what he had seen.

The abuse took place over the course of a year and was only discovered after the girl confided in a family member.

The boy was given a three-year youth rehabilitation order and will continue to live at the family home.

He was ordered to register as a sex offender for two-and-a-half years.'

As stated in the article this is not an isolated incident, the 'opt- in' changes to porn and the restrictions on accounts registered to children on xbox will go some was to addressing the problem.
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I didn't notice it had happened before...

'In November last year a 12-year-old boy admitted three charges of rape against his sister, aged under 10, after he watched pornography at school and went home to copy what he had seen.

The abuse took place over the course of a year and was only discovered after the girl confided in a family member.

The boy was given a three-year youth rehabilitation order and will continue to live at the family home.

He was ordered to register as a sex offender for two-and-a-half years.'

As stated in the article this is not an isolated incident, the 'opt- in' changes to porn and the restrictions on accounts registered to children on xbox will go some was to addressing the problem.
I genuinely dont think it will address the problem at all. Delay it? Maybe. But these are disturbed individuals without empathy and, when they are no longer children, they will STILL be disturbed individuals without empathy. I'm afraid they were always going to end up hurting someone, somewhere, at some point.
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I genuinely dont think it will address the problem at all. Delay it? Maybe. But these are disturbed individuals without empathy and, when they are no longer children, they will STILL be disturbed individuals without empathy. I'm afraid they were always going to end up hurting someone, somewhere, at some point.
I'm sorry you've lost me a bit somewhere, I'm suggesting this kind of material that creates the conditions that cause the change in these individuals... that the dormant neuro pathways are fired into life by experiencing this content, and if unexposed would not develop into any pathological desires.
Sure there's nothing to say that there wouldn't be a trigger in the future but the issue is with minors being exposed which is causing the problems earlier, which is kind of the whole point of the argument for the xbox restrictions.
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