[Josy]

Is torture ever acceptable?

Imagine this scenario

A terrorist group states that it has concealed a nuclear bomb in London, the authorities have captured the leader of the group and he says that he knows where the bomb is but refuses to reveal the location

You are advised that torture is guaranteed to produce the information needed to ensure the authorities find and make the bomb safe

Do you authorise it?

[Jake.]

Yes, he's endangering the lives of possibly thousands

[Jack_]

Never ever ever ever ever

[GypsyGoth]

Sure, I'd waterboard the **** out of him.

[Jake.]

actually how much torture are we talking? I wouldn't stab him or anything, perhaps just pinch his nipples or something

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Never ever ever ever ever

I think you're just as bad as the terrorist then.

You could have stopped a bomb going off but chose not to.

[GiRTh]

No never.

[Loukas]

Yes, it is expectable. I would use Chinese water torture personally

[GiRTh]

Do the forum member know how to water board? I know how to do it and frankly to put someone thru that would destroy me. I don't think I could do it.

EDIt: Thinking about it that would be a good question., Would you torture someone to get information out of them?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Do the forum member know how to water board? I know how to do it and frankly to put someone thru that would destroy me. I don't think I could do it.

Even if it meant saving the lives of the people you love?

[GypsyGoth]

And I've seen it in a couple of movies, I'm not sure how accurate it was. One of the films was Zero Dark Thirty, that changed my opinion on torture.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Even if it meant saving the lives of the people you love?

the most honest answer I can give you is - I dont know.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Josy

Is torture ever acceptable?

Imagine this scenario



Do you authorise it?

no because that group don't seem that pro as the leader be got

[GypsyGoth]

*waterboards michael21*

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

*waterboards michael21*

[michael21]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

*waterboards michael21*

dye gg hair pink

know everyone going to called you green as i not good at dyeing

[Scarlett.]

No, torture is never acceptable, once a country decides to torture someone, its set itself off on a dark path. See American and the UK post-9/11.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Do the forum member know how to water board? I know how to do it and frankly to put someone thru that would destroy me. I don't think I could do it.

EDIt: Thinking about it that would be a good question., Would you torture someone to get information out of them?

That is the question?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Josy

That is the question?

Again the most honest answer I can give you - I don't know. Water boarding can screw people up for 15 -20 years. It would depend on the situation.

[Firewire]

No because if someone is tortured and they know nothing it's disgusting. If they are screaming for their life that they know nothing, so the torture gets worse, I think that's terrible.

[Kizzy]

I might try sleep depravation before I pulled their nails out...

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Chewy

No, torture is never acceptable, once a country decides to torture someone, its set itself off on a dark path. See American and the UK post-9/11.

Spot on!
Us and very much more so the Americans don't have right on our side any more. Once you start coming up with ways to avoid having to uphold human rights treaties that you have clearly signed up to then you're *****ed and have no grounds to complain when someone wants to do appalling things to you.
The things that have been done by the US and to a lesser extent the British in Iraq and Afghanistan to people (very often completely innocent people) supposedly in the name of peace and freedom (as if!) are beyond disgusting and totally reprehensible.

What what goes around comes around. You can't do terrible things to people and not expect it to come back around to you!

[Ammi]

..I think there was once a thread about what makes us 'civilised'...for me, one of the /a huge thing would be that I wouldn't torture someone under any circumstances...that makes me responsible for the deaths of many..?...maybe and that would be something that I would have to live with..(or die with..)..but the responsibility or how I would rationalise it would be that of the person who had placed the bombs whose torture I was being asked to authorise...would it make me any better than him, if I authorised it and I would never authorise anything that I wouldn't or couldn't personally do myself, anyway...

[joeysteele]

The question asks is torture acceptable in the instance where it is known the person captured 'knows' where the bomb is.

I'd normally say no to torture but if they were arrogant enough to state they knew where the bomb was then I would reluctantly support getting that vital info out of them with some torture if they were not cooperating without it.

[thesheriff443]

has anyone read the op?

the facts are!, its a nuclear bomb!, not your every day bomb that only kills a few hundred.

the torture of this scum bag will produce the location of this bomb so it can be made safe.

in life we have to make difficult decisions, not many on here can see the big picture only focusing on them selves.