[Crimson Dynamo]

Like the progressive Danes have?

Animal rights MUST come before religion?



Graphic Image

Spoiler:

Not sure we have the stomachs for the fight.

[arista]

No as it the same but takes longer.
we use Electric Stun guns faster to do
same result


That second picture needs to be on a link
not posted
without warning given of Graphic Content

[Nedusa]

I think this is a no brainer. of course an animals welfare must come before a religious practice.

It's bad enough that we breed animals for food and have to kill them, so at least let us kill them in the most humane way possible and that means quickest and least painful way.

Religion should not even be a consideration. if people want to make animals suffer and die slowly in pain then to me that is evil and they are brainwashed into thinking some imaginary deity has decreed it so.

Don't get me started on religion again.

But Yes an animal that exists in this world and is made of flesh and blood ALWAYS trumps a non existant imaginary, invisible man living in the clouds...........!!!!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I think this is a no brainer. of course an animals welfare must come before a religious practice.

It's bad enough that we breed animals for food and have to kill them, so at least let us kill them in the most humane way possible and that means quickest and least painful way.

Religion should not even be a consideration. if people want to make animals suffer and die slowly in pain then to me that is evil and they are brainwashed into thinking some imaginary deity has decreed it so.

Don't get me started on religion again.

But Yes an animal that exists in this world and is made of flesh and blood ALWAYS trumps a non existant imaginary, invisible man living in the clouds...........!!!!!

Halal Meat is a Ł2Billion Industry

Originally Posted by arista

No as it the same but takes longer.
we use Electric Stun guns faster to do
same result


That second picture needs to be on a link not posted
and a warning given of Graphic Content

Cigarette packets carry worse pictures than that on them. This is supposed to be SD, so I think people can probably handle a picture of a dead cow.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by arista

Halal Meat is a 2Billion Industry

And so probably is "organised Religion"......

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Cigarette packets carry worse pictures than that on them. This is supposed to be SD, so I think people can probably handle a picture of a dead cow.

No many on here do not want to see that
and Warning is needed

[lostalex]

let's all just go vegan and get it over with. it's clear that is the direction we are going..

it's probablly healthier anyway.

[lostalex]

is alcohol vegan?

Originally Posted by arista

No many on here do not want to see that
and Warning is needed

Moral arbiter for TIBB has spoken. I've seen many worse pics than that around here without any issue.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by lostalex

is alcohol vegan?

Yes, most alcohol is brewed or distilled from Fruit ,grain or Vegetables

[Kazanne]

I think anything that is more humane should be used surely it's a no brainer,people are so cruel,I hate to think what animals all over the world are going through because of us

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Yes, most alcohol is brewed or distilled from Fruit ,grain or Vegetables

Exactl;y, see, i'm walk the walk and walk the talk.

[Nedusa]

I can see where this thread is going............

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by arista

That second picture needs to be on a link
not posted
without warning given of Graphic Content

Fully agree Arista. Spoilered would be fine. I'd view it but it would be preferable to know what the content is in advance rather than it just appear. Not censorship, just choice of whether you want to see.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by lostalex

stop trying to instigate. i've heard about you instigating NeEDUSA the INSTIGATOR, that;'s what they call you behind your back.

Really...........I haven't herd that before.........!!!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

I see it like if we killed humans for meat, how would you want them to be killed. We are all animals, humans are no better or worse than cows.

[lostalex]

i feel much more comfortable talking about Ukraine...

[Kate!]

It's udderly barbaric.

[arista]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Fully agree Arista. Spoilered would be fine. I'd view it but it would be preferable to know what the content is in advance rather than it just appear. Not censorship, just choice of whether you want to see.

yes its a Needs a Spoiler

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by arista

yes its a Needs a Spoiler

Good idea jar jar.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

yes its a Needs a Spoiler

Ok

Spoiler: The cow died


happy?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ok

Spoiler: The cow died


happy?

I agree with kaz, it seems more humane and instantaneous. There was an undercover film made about abattoir practices, the animals are terrified.. the stun gun doesn't always work effectively so they are suspended from hooks and gutted semi concious.... That's not humane is it?

[Livia]

I sometimes think that meat eaters who don't eat Kosher or Halal have a kind of fairy-tale view of abattoirs, where the animals are given some kind of pre-med before they're dispatched off to heaven in a sleepy way. Abattoirs are awful, frightening places full of despair and terror. All animal slaughter is upsetting, but because Kosher and Halal are to do with religion, it's got to be worse, right?

Maybe we should be concentratinig more on demanding that the animal, which is being reared for meat and nothing else, has a natural, quality life while it's alive?