[Jack_]

cause I cba posting little bits about subsections of the issues in different threads

First thing's first, a round of applause for Steven and Winston for instigating all of the drama. Promising stuff from them two.

Secondly, Danielle's bat**** crazy and I ****ing love it. She was 100% in the wrong though to call them 'slags' (seriously EW at this word why do people still use it?) and 'classless' just because they wish to talk about sex (hello, it's 2014...if you don't like it fine but just move away, you can't expect people to focus discussion topics around what you want) and also those comments in the bedroom about women needing to be 'ladylike' ewww at the sexism, made me vom. The entire rant about 'I'm going to tell people what I think of them' and then when she went off on one at Helen out of nowhere though...hilarious woman

Helen took it too far IMO with the 'fat bitch' comments, no need to take it to that level but my GOD I'm so ****ing glad this woman was given the pass to the final when it could have been a bore instead. This better never change, she's going to be golden entertainment if she keeps this up. Abhorrent behaviour but a great housemate all the same. On the topic of the 'I'm going to knock her out' comment, I also thought that was a bit too far and she should be warned for it as any other person would be BUT who's to say she hasn't been already?

She was also pretty pathetic rejecting Danielle's apology but I'm GLAD she did because in the context of the show it's better to keep the feud alive. Not often we see housemates refusing to make up, so this is a good thing. Although from the BOTS clips it does look like she's seen she may have been out of order so...

So yeah that's about it. Also while I'm here can we plz stop referring to Helen as a 'home wrecker'? A married man paying for sex with a prostitute does NOT put that girl in the wrong. That's her job. She was paid for it, he's the married man. What kind of latent misogyny is this?

[reece(:]

No lies spotted

[Jake.]

I agree with a lot of it apart from the misogyny given how some people think Helen's threat was fine because she's female

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I agree with a lot of it apart from the misogyny given how some people think Helen's threat was fine because she's female

who said that?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

who said that?

Idk go and have a read lol

[HD]

[kistar]

Okay

[Vicky.]

Tbf to Danielle..she did not say all the girls were slags. Her comment could be interpretted as that I guess but its not quite what she said. Its not what Steven said either, it was Helen that morphed it into that

Danielle 'not remembering' she said the word slags at all though

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Tbf to Danielle..she did not say all the girls were slags. Her comment could be interpretted as that I guess but its not quite what she said. Its not what Steven said either, it was Helen that morphed it into that

Danielle 'not remembering' she said the word slags at all though

She denied it.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I agree with a lot of it apart from the misogyny given how some people think Helen's threat was fine because she's female

I mentioned that as well though, no way should that comment be treated any differently to if a man were to say it. Definitely works both ways. But since it's been reported she's had like fourteen warnings already, what's to say one of them wasn't for this?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I mentioned that as well though, no way should that comment be treated any differently to if a man were to say it. Definitely works both ways. But since it's been reported she's had like fourteen warnings already, what's to say one of them wasn't for this?

Thank God, knew I could count on you Jack

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Tbf to Danielle..she did not say all the girls were slags. Her comment could be interpretted as that I guess but its not quite what she said. Its not what Steven said either, it was Helen that morphed it into that

Danielle 'not remembering' she said the word slags at all though

"I'm nominated because I don't act like a slag" is definitely calling those not nominated slags.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"I'm nominated because I don't act like a slag" is definitely calling those not nominated slags.

No its not :S

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"I'm nominated because I don't act like a slag" is definitely calling those not nominated slags.

Hardly

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No its not :S

Originally Posted by Jake.

Hardly

How is it not?

If I said "TiBB won't make me a mod because I'm not a prick" then I'd be insinuating that the mods are pricks.

[HD]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How is it not?

If I said "TiBB won't make me a mod because I'm not a prick" then I'd be insinuating that the mods are pricks.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How is it not?

If I said "TiBB won't make me a mod because I'm not a prick" then I'd be insinuating that the mods are pricks.

I just dont think she was saying all the other girls are slags, given that her friends werent up either, and she was talking to them at the time?

[reece(:]

Not sure I remember anyone saying the threats weren't warning worthy Just people said that if it was a man threatening a woman it would've been worse..

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Danielle 'not remembering' she said the word slags at all though

MR H Christ is guiding Danielle to a week one eviction

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Not sure I remember anyone saying the threats weren't warning worthy Just people said that if it was a man threatening a woman it would've been worse..

i agree although if mark had said "i'm gonna punch her face in" no one would take it seriously

[Vicky.]

How long have you been wanting to call us pricks for marsh

[Marsh.]

I love the mods me.

[Jack_]

Whether she was calling all of them slags though, she was still basically inferring that people like Helen, Tamara etc (those involved in the sex chaste) were so my point still stands

[Rob!]

A Jack essay

Pretty spot on - Helen is an absolutely horrific person but she's going to cause **** all the way to the final. Danielle needs to stay.

[Vicky.]

Hmmm I guess. She did kind of have a point when she said she hadnt actually called them slags though. But she blew it when she said she hadnt said it at all

I find Danielle bloody hilarious tbh. Shes got no self awareness at all. And her 'morals' ae just ridiculous...and as if she has never heard talk like that given that shes one of those phone sex workers (?)

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Hmmm I guess. She did kind of have a point when she said she hadnt actually called them slags though. But she blew it when she said she hadnt said it at all

I find Danielle bloody hilarious tbh. Shes got no self awareness at all. And her 'morals' ae just ridiculous...and as if she has never heard talk like that given that shes one of those phone sex workers (?)

I don't think she lacks awareness, I think she's just plain fake.

Her act would be kind of convincing if we didn't know what we know of her outside and inside the house she reveals herself when she loses her temper.

She's finding out what all the people who tried to act their way through the show found out before, that you can't keep it up for long or all the time.

She made me laugh in the diary room when she said "that's not me, I don't have a temper". Even with Jale in the bedroom/bathroom discussion she was getting irate.

What a mess she is.