[Bluerang1]

It's been a recurring theme on C5 Big Brother that the apparent victim in the house ends up being the forum favorite. Why is this? With Aaron it was clear that he reveled in the victim status as he knew it made him popular, and Dexter followed that formula. It seems that the forum favorites are the "outsiders" and "victims" and there's a chance that housemates plan on playing these roles before they gone in to garner sympathy and try and win the show. Deana is an example of an entertaining outsider or even victim because she stood up for herself, some of the others I've seen, not so much.

[Marsh.]

Dexter wasn't a victim.

[Mystic Mock]

I'll support victims if they're entertaining, but if all they want to be known for is being apparently bullied then I will not support them at all.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Dexter wasn't a victim.

Some of his fans portrayed him that way.

[BigBuk]

Dexter wasn't a victim, he was a god.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BigBuk

Dexter wasn't a victim, he was a god.

Haha good response.

[Donovan.]

Yeah I get what you're saying. I thought I'd really like Jale when she stood up to Toya, but her talking to herself in the garden after Tamara's eviction threw me off a little. Maybe all of the week's emotions were hitting her then, but it was the first moment that I thought she could be playing it up.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Bluerang1

It's been a recurring theme on C5 Big Brother that the apparent victim in the house ends up being the forum favorite. Why is this? With Aaron it was clear that he reveled in the victim status as he knew it made him popular, and Dexter followed that formula. It seems that the forum favorites are the "outsiders" and "victims" and there's a chance that housemates plan on playing these roles before they gone in to garner sympathy and try and win the show. Deana is an example of an entertaining outsider or even victim because she stood up for herself, some of the others I've seen, not so much.

..I don't think they do end up being the favourite long term but obviously they are 'favoured' over the housemate who is being mean to them in some way..that's just an empathy thing but once that person has been evicted..(if they are evicted..)..then we're able to see the 'victim's' personality more clearly and they don't always stay favoured...

[Mystic Mock]

This thread has just reminded me of Deana's sweet ass.

[Vanessa]

Dexter wasn't a victim. he played them all like a fiddle.

[Cherie]

Underdog not victim. When the majority of the house is against a HM the public usually get behind them.

[jyunga]

Usually when someone is the underdog/victim in the house the other housemates are going along with someone else and attacking the victim somewhat, rather then being themselves. Makes it all that more easy to like the underdog/victim.

[Turtle]

As clever as the HMs claim to be they don't have the public sussed, and so the big egos always end up going despite all their talk of cleverness.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I'll support victims if they're entertaining, but if all they want to be known for is being apparently bullied then I will not support them at all.

Which Jale doesn't... she's said on many occasions that Helen and Pauline can say what they wish, she hasn't made big dramatics over it/doesn't slag them off

[jyunga]

But you could argue that Jale does know what she is doing. She's not playing the whiny victim type that goes around crying to people but she could very well be playing the public by trying to act the tough victim that isn't going to give her 'bullies' the satisfaction. It's really hard to tell without knowing her better. Maybe she's being 100% genuine, I really hope/think so. She seems pretty on her own and I don't think she needs to be portraited as a victim since it's obvious Pauline is a moron.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Dexter wasn't a victim.

He made himself out to be.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Dexter wasn't a victim. he played them all like a fiddle.

YUP right to second place

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Dexter wasn't a victim. he played them all like a fiddle.

Not when Gina was in that series

[rionablue]

I think its because even though we find outspoken and zany housemates entertaining in the long run, we have also got hearts and don't want to see anyone verbally accused or being left out of a group. We often sympathise with their situation. The only exception I have ever seen to this is that Hazel and Daley situation last year when very very few people had a shred of pity for Hazel even though what Daley did was totally unacceptable. That did surprise me as for the most part there is a lot of sympathy in here. Just my opinion

[Verbal]

"You only like/hate them cos they're victims"

"You only like/hate them cos they're black"

"You only like/hate them cos you want a woman/man to win"

FFS people like them as individuals

[Sophiee]

I agree, this honestly annoys me so much. I don't understand what jale has done to be so popular and the answer is she quite simply hasn't done much at all, but she's been targeted, took it all in her stride and suddenly she's a goddess.

[Kizzy]

Nobody likes injustice, well some do but they're daft.

[*mazedsalv**]

Underdog, not a victim.

Anyway, remember the worshipping of Freddie? That was in the Ch4 years.

[Vicky.]

Probably because generally the 'victim' comes off as more likeable that the twat thats constantly picking at them

[Tregard]

Theyre usually not being a dick

[mrflibble]

I haven't watched or read about any previous series of Big Brother, but I think it's because 'bullies' always look pathetic. They are shallow and see-through, uninteresting and just nasty. If a 'victim' reacts well, they come off as being strong, grounded and real. That's just a generalisation, but I find that's why I'd side with the victims. But it really depends.

Helen was bullying Danielle and they both came off very poorly; Danielle as a hypocrite and Helen as a bitch. With the Jale situation, Jale is not reacting in kind and keeping her head. She appears to be a much stronger and nicer person than Helen and the others, so it makes much more sense to take her side. The other thing with the Jale situation is that almost the entire house is scheming against her to try and get a reaction. Because she hasn't done anything wrong - that we've seen - it makes it even worse.

In a non-bullying situation - Steven is playing the victim about being nominated and comes off like a complete twat. Likewise, Pauline's reaction to her own (and to pretty much everything, she plays the victim more than anyone else in the house).

But whether I like someone in the house or not is entirely about who they are and their behaviour. I'm not going to like someone just because they're a victim, BUT if they are a victim and they deal with that well, they are going to be more likable to me.