[rusticgal]

No....she is a vile, nasty bit of work. She is so fake and now licking peoples arses because she realises all her mates are getting booed and as she is there till the end she now has to suck up to people she really cannot stand.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

I think there's a little Helen in all of us

Yeah, like Ninastar's Helen comes out when you cover half of her TV stand.

Mine comes out when I've had vodka.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

If you disliked her, are you starting to find her more likeable lately?

Absolutely****innot

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

. she has been pretty true to herself can't fault her for that.

Yes,have to agree,unlike Ashleigh,Helen does tell people to their face.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

or you would like a little of you in Helen

I'm a one woman man Cherie and that's the American Goddess

[Strictly Jake]

That's like asking if I like the girl at school who is full of herself and a bully. No!

[MB.]

I think it's more a case of counting the days until Helen gets her comeuppance of sorts. There's no way that the producers will let her coast through to the final as normal, whether she gets dragged out by her ankles or not

[grandefratello]

Started off disliking her, now I absolutely loathe her and the loathing intensifies with each passing day. She is a cheap, common, foul-mouthed, uneducated slut!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

I'm a one woman man Cherie and that's the American Goddess

Don't you like a girl to react when you bang her?

[Gerbil901]

I don't really like her at all. But, I do feel sorry for her because you can tell she has some really deep rooted personal issues. I don't know much about her but I do know she has a rough background. She has a drinking problem and she just seems to have so much anger inside of her. Now I can't excuse her behavior but anger like that doesn't come out of nowhere. It comes from somewhere deep inside of her psyche.

I do feel for people who have issues dealing with their anger though. People don't understand and feel that if you have anger issues you are just a vile human being. Some people have a more difficult time dealing with it. I can relate to her in that respect because it was something I dealt with for years before I got help from a psychiatrist.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Don't you like a girl to react when you bang her?

Such filth

[rionablue]

No don't like Helen and wish she wasn't safe till the final. I have not felt sorry for her once since she entered the house, she is vicious, foul mouthed and has a permanent scowl. Cant stand her

[Pink Pegasus]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

I don't really like her at all. But, I do feel sorry for her because you can tell she has some really deep rooted personal issues. I don't know much about her but I do know she has a rough background. She has a drinking problem and she just seems to have so much anger inside of her. Now I can't excuse her behavior but anger like that doesn't come out of nowhere. It comes from somewhere deep inside of her psyche.

I do feel for people who have issues dealing with their anger though. People don't understand and feel that if you have anger issues you are just a vile human being. Some people have a more difficult time dealing with it. I can relate to her in that respect because it was something I dealt with for years before I got help from a psychiatrist.

One of the times I felt most sorry for her was the time Toya had to take her to the bathroom. Her feelings were hurt because she felt Toya had distanced herself or was treating her different. She started of just wanting to talk to Toya but was getting angrier and angrier because Ashleigh and rest were sitting there.

She could acknowledge that she was losing her temper and that she was going to come across really bad but seemed INCAPABLE of stopping herself or calming down. She was sobbing because she was sad about Toya and also annoyed at herself but could only express her emotions through anger and shouting. I really just felt bad for her there because she seemed so annoyed with HERSELF but couldn't stop.

She then went and severely dampened my sympathies by shouting her head off with the boys only a very short while later. She seems like she is her own worst enemy...

[Bollo]

I don't like her or find her anymore likeable...but she's certainly compelling viewing

[Hofman]

I'm kind of realising tonight that I do have sympathy for her. She only seems to rationalise things 24 hours later, her intuition to defend and attack must have come from somewhere.

She is clearly very hurt and angry inside being so defensive and aggressive. I just wish we knew more about what is causing it to understand her more.

It's a bit like angry teenagers, there is usually a cause which is sometimes hard to find and resolve. Often bullies are or have been bullied, so making harsh assumptions without knowing the full story is becoming hard for me.

[Brooklyn]

I will never like Helen. I think we are beginning to understand Helen a bit more, but in her case that is not necessarily a good thing.

[Iceman]

No she just seems like a nasty person. Lay off the jesus juice too. :/

[Novo]

Yeah a bit and i am very much of the idea she is the best thing to happen to this series, without her I don't think the show would have had many talking points at all and the house would be more together

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Novo

Yeah a bit and i am very much of the idea she is the best thing to happen to this series, without her I don't think the show would have had many talking points at all and the house would be more together

Yeah thats true. As much as I dislike her I think she's given fantastic viewing.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

Her behaviour is appalling at times. I would detest her if I was living in the house with her.

However I must admit there's part of me that feels sorry for her. She has MASSIVE anger issues and possibly a drinking problem too. I don't think she is able to control her emotions at all. She comes across as a pretty messed up individual , who just doesn't even know how to change and sometimes seems very annoyed with herself/her own reactions. A bit lost and lashing out all the time.

I always feel sorry for her targets though who bear the savage and cruel brunt of all her built up anger. She can be quite the bully which is very uncomfortable to watch.

..yeah I pretty much agree with this Pinkpegasus..and hey btw, I always enjoy reading your thoughts about housemates...I think she is a fairly messed up person and you can often see her frustrations with herself but she can't control it so no matter how much she's aware of her flaws, she just keeps disappointing herself so I think her 'self hatred' is a vicious circle and just goes on and on...there are certain things that I feel empathy for and I think she's probably had a pretty tough life and has had to have a mind set of 'self preservation' and survival so is fairly much a 'fighter' and assumes everyone is against her ..and in a way they are/we are but that's because she self destructs and lashes out at others in the process....anyway I might be completely wrong about all of that and it's all her 'outside of the house' life anyway and in the house, no matter what her reasons/psychology/life etc, the results are the same in that she's fairly awful and harsh to people and is just an extreme negative person...and yeah, you could also describe her as a bit of a bully and that's never good to watch....

[DrunkerThanMoses]

People who like Helen : -

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by xPinkpegasusx

One of the times I felt most sorry for her was the time Toya had to take her to the bathroom. Her feelings were hurt because she felt Toya had distanced herself or was treating her different. She started of just wanting to talk to Toya but was getting angrier and angrier because Ashleigh and rest were sitting there.

She could acknowledge that she was losing her temper and that she was going to come across really bad but seemed INCAPABLE of stopping herself or calming down. She was sobbing because she was sad about Toya and also annoyed at herself but could only express her emotions through anger and shouting. I really just felt bad for her there because she seemed so annoyed with HERSELF but couldn't stop.

She then went and severely dampened my sympathies by shouting her head off with the boys only a very short while later. She seems like she is her own worst enemy...

..yeah I thought that thing with Toya was quite telling and also the 'fight night' because a lot of her behaviour, although unpleasant is also quite childish/childlike...and that's quite interesting (possibly... because I don't know that much about her..)...with what she does for a living and maybe a 'need to be loved'..?...and then when she feels the opposite of that love, she really wants to hit out at that person. or those people...

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I pretty much agree with this Pinkpegasus..and hey btw, I always enjoy reading your thoughts about housemates...I think she is a fairly messed up person and you can often see her frustrations with herself but she can't control it so no matter how much she's aware of her flaws, she just keeps disappointing herself so I think her 'self hatred' is a vicious circle and just goes on and on...there are certain things that I feel empathy for and I think she's probably had a pretty tough life and has had to have a mind set of 'self preservation' and survival so is fairly much a 'fighter' and assumes everyone is against her ..and in a way they are/we are but that's because she self destructs and lashes out at others in the process....anyway I might be completely wrong about all of that and it's all her 'outside of the house' life anyway and in the house, no matter what her reasons/psychology/life etc, the results are the same in that she's fairly awful and harsh to people and is just an extreme negative person...and yeah, you could also describe her as a bit of a bully and that's never good to watch....

I completely agree with this. Things that have happened in her life have shaped the person she is and that's not a likeable person. That's no excuse and she could address the issues she has but we've seen the odd chink in her armour that shows deep down there is a heart.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Bollo

I don't like her or find her anymore likeable...but she's certainly compelling viewing

i wood agree.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I completely agree with this. Things that have happened in her life have shaped the person she is and that's not a likeable person. That's no excuse and she could address the issues she has but we've seen the odd chink in her armour that shows deep down there is a heart.

..I think though Annie that to address the issues that she knows she has, she would have to like herself more to feel she 'deserved' that and I don't see any self liking there at all...hopefully one day she will though and maybe 'turn her life around'..but maybe also she doesn't want to because who and what she is gives her a 'celebrity'...