[Samwell]

Do you think Helen is broken beacuse of the prostituting, or did she prostitute because she is broken? She seems very bitter and hateful. But I am very curious if this came before or after the prostituting. What is your opinion?

[Josy]

I think she done the prostitute thing because she was broke not broken




Being serious though...she apparently had a bit of a wild childhood, had problems with her parents, went into a foster home, then had her child at a very young age then couldn't afford her bills so turned to prostitution so yeah she probably was a broken person

And a life like that was always going to leave their mark on her character.

[Samwell]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think she done the prostitute thing because she was broke not broken




Being serious though...she apparently had a bit of a wild childhood, had problems with her parents, went into a foster home, then had her child at a very young age then couldn't afford her bills so turned to prostitution so yeah she probably was a broken person

And a life like that was always going to leave their mark on her character.

Thanks, you have a lot of background information. It seems logical though, for someone to be as she is, it probably has roots all the way back to her childhood.

[Achilles]

Helen has gone through a lot of **** during her life, but she still managed to come out of it a better human being than Danielle, the "lady"

[kistar]

Helen isn't broken she just can't get her own way by brute force and ignorance like she would normally do , she knows she is in a controlled environment and doesn't have the skill set to cope with being reasonable and civil so she is falling apart .

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Samwell

Thanks, you have a lot of background information. It seems logical though, for someone to be as she is, it probably has roots all the way back to her childhood.

Here is an article that contains some background info about Helens life

http://www.nicholasbowman.co.uk/wp-c...len-Wood-1.jpg

If you click on it it zooms so it's readable

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think she done the prostitute thing because she was broke not broken




Being serious though...she apparently had a bit of a wild childhood, had problems with her parents, went into a foster home, then had her child at a very young age then couldn't afford her bills so turned to prostitution so yeah she probably was a broken person

And a life like that was always going to leave their mark on her character.

If you want to be an arse you can always justify it, there is never a reason to be mean and cruel .

[smeagol]

there is no excuses no justification , some people are just born bad.
she was a hoe since early teens by the sound of it. she comes from normal parents with good jobs she hasn't had a hard life at all .
she just likes sausage and crack and was born with evil in her vains

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by smeagol

there is no excuses no justification , some people are just born bad.
she was a hoe since early teens by the sound of it. she comes from normal parents with good jobs she hasn't had a hard life at all .
she just likes sausage and crack and was born with evil in her vains

You are correct. Some people are born rotten. Danielle is the prime example. She is rotten to the core.

[kistar]

How can anyone justify being awful because they had a crap childhood , so many people have had so much worse happen and have actually turned out to be reasonable human beings, it is no excuse and it's just about choice, she chooses to be vile in the present nothing to do with the past.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kistar

If you want to be an arse you can always justify it, there is never a reason to be mean and cruel .

I think it's perfectly fair to assume that being a prostitute will more than likely impact your life in a negative way leaving you bitter and hateful.

I know that in no way excuses her behaviour in the house but that's not what the OP was asking.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Achilles

You are correct. Some people are born rotten. Danielle is the prime example. She is rotten to the core.

danielle? shes not nasty or cruel though. she's just desperate for attention land slightly of her meds lol

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think it's perfectly fair to assume that being a prostitute will more than likely impact your life in a negative way leaving you bitter and hateful.

I know that in no way excuses her behaviour in the house but that's not what the OP was asking.

I think that's a very big assumption to be honest Josy.

[Samwell]

Originally Posted by Achilles

You are correct. Some people are born rotten. Danielle is the prime example. She is rotten to the core.

Originally Posted by Achilles

Helen has gone through a lot of **** during her life, but she still managed to come out of it a better human being than Danielle, the "lady"

I agree with you. Even though Helen is very bad, Danielle may be worse.

I wonder how Helen was as a prostitute though. If she was nice, and welcoming, or cold and bitchy.

[smeagol]

if anyone wants to pay me £180 for sex i wont be bitter i promise lol
roll up roll up come get some smeg lol

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kistar

I think that's a very big assumption to be honest Josy.

I don't understand how it is?

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think it's perfectly fair to assume that being a prostitute will more than likely impact your life in a negative way leaving you bitter and hateful.

I know that in no way excuses her behaviour in the house but that's not what the OP was asking.

Did you see belle de jour? Have you read confessions of a call girl , I'm sure channel 4 did a programme about grannies being escorts and they were having a great time , getting paid £180 an hour would surely take the bitterness out if a situation let's be honest , she was meeting famous footballers and having 3somes and getting paid a grand a time , how would that ever make her bitter ?

[jet]

Originally Posted by kistar

How can anyone justify being awful because they had a crap childhood , so many people have had so much worse happen and have actually turned out to be reasonable human beings, it is no excuse and it's just about choice, she chooses to be vile in the present nothing to do with the past.

[smudgie]

I have known a few prostitues in my time, never ever found any of them bitter and twisted.

She might have regrets about it, can't be easy when your face js plastered all over the papers.
I just think she is a naturally nasty person when she has had a drink.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't understand how it is?

Have a think.......

[Kizzy]

Being kicked out of the family home and being persecuted by the public is excuse enough for me to be slightly unstable.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Helen has gone through a lot of **** during her life, but she still managed to come out of it a better human being than Danielle, the "lady"

She has indeed, I prefer Helen any day over Danielle.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by kistar

How can anyone justify being awful because they had a crap childhood , so many people have had so much worse happen and have actually turned out to be reasonable human beings, it is no excuse and it's just about choice, she chooses to be vile in the present nothing to do with the past.

How can anyone justify being awful because they had a nice childhood? People can have some kind of idea why Helen turned away the way she has, but what is Danielle's excuse? Danielle is the vile human being in that house, not Helen.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kistar

Did you see belle de jour? Have you read confessions of a call girl , I'm sure channel 4 did a programme about grannies being escorts and they were having a great time , getting paid £180 an hour would surely take the bitterness out if a situation let's be honest , she was meeting famous footballers and having 3somes and getting paid a grand a time , how would that ever make her bitter ?

I'm sure plenty of women do enjoy being prostitutes but there's also many that don't, some do it to feed their addictions, some do it because they are forced to, to pay of debts, I could go on but you seriously think those women would be having a ball? also Helen said in an article that she was getting £40 at one point..£40 for giving your body to a stanger would definitely have a negative impact on some womens lives.

So no I don't think it's a very big assumption that being a prostitute could leave her hatefull and bitter. You are also making an assumption that all prostitutes are living the high life with footballers from watching a tv show about it.

[MarcusMel]

Where do children get the role models to copy these days? Eastenders, Neighbours?

If parents have to work all the time do children get to feel needed?

Does anyone ever think that they might actually be wrong? They might think that they just did not know what the right thing to do was, but thats not being wrong!!!