[JohnBlox]

I copied this from another thread as it deserves its own thread

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

It's not even about Matthew. It's about a housemate being 1/16 to go and being saved. No one odds on to go at 1/3 has ever been saved so when someone at 1/16 to go is saved then everyone smells a ch5 rat.

I've watched BB since first ever series in Holland and am now watching BBOTS 100% definitely the last BB episode I ever see, how sad, but once the integrity of the voting system is clearly gone there's no point. Anyone who doubts it's a fix doesn't understand basic maths. The result is not possible by purely public voting. By all means enjoy the show but the eviction by public DOES NOT NOW EXIST!

The concept of watching Helen for 7+ more weeks is laughable! why would you? You could go to any sink estate in the land, or Holloway prison and watch that kind of primitive behaviour all day every day.

[Northern Monkey]

I think Helen is an excellent HM and i was'nt bothered who went tonight,But i do agree that this seems dodgy.

[JPG2502]

I think it might have something to do with the 'app', I'm sure its giving us mixed results compared to what we might get with sole phone voting

[JohnBlox]

England world cup team, worst result since 1958
Murrays worst Wimbledon result for 8 years
BB a 10:1 HM leaves over one at 1:15 = Never happened EVER.

If the App doesn't restrict voting it would be easy to automate it to vote 100+ of times a minute (using stolen credit cards for credit OR other hack?) on multiple accounts bouncing through proxies to rig the bet. Other shows (x-factor) have withdrawn computerised voting, probably for this very reason.

If people complain and it gets investigated, it will 100% definitely be shown to be rigged. It's not like it hasn't happened before Ant&Dec etc.

[Josy]

This is getting boring.

Its not a fix at all, the channel and company that runs BB would be in massive trouble if they fixed the votes.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Josy

This is getting boring.

Its not a fix at all, the channel and company that runs BB would be in massive trouble if they fixed the votes.

It's happened before though so it's not impossible who polices it ?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kistar

It's happened before though so it's not impossible who polices it ?

Electoral Reform Services

Do you realise the trouble that it would cause endemol and channel 5 if there was dodgy goings on with the votes? and they have no need to want Ash to stay over Matthew anyway...

It's a simple case of Ash getting less votes to evict than Matthew for numerous reasons but people that wanted Ash out just can't accept it.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Josy

Electoral Reform Services

Do you realise the trouble that it would cause endemol and channel 5 if there was dodgy goings on with the votes? and they have no need to want Ash to stay over Matthew anyway...

It's a simple case of Ash getting less votes to evict than Matthew for numerous reasons but people that wanted Ash out just can't accept it.

This.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Josy

Electoral Reform Services

Do you realise the trouble that it would cause endemol and channel 5 if there was dodgy goings on with the votes? and they have no need to want Ash to stay over Matthew anyway...

It's a simple case of Ash getting less votes to evict than Matthew for numerous reasons but people that wanted Ash out just can't accept it.

Exactly and it is a pretty serious allegation to be just throwing out there. One quite a few people could get sued for.

[Novo]

Brilliant, keep them coming

[Jemal]

Lol is there anyway mods can close these fix threads?

[smeagol]

well if any sporting event was those odds and they lost. there would be a massive uproar and a investigation. its virtually unknown.
its like a one legged turkey racing a car with those odds

its suspect for certain. those odds are massive.and as i said ages ago not many vote you could easily manipulate it to make money if smart enough, doesn't have to bb could be anyone

[Novo]

Originally Posted by smeagol

well if any sporting event was those odds and they lost. there would be a massive uproar and a investigation. its virtually unknown.
its like a one legged turkey racing a car with those odds

its suspect for certain. those odds are massive.and as i said ages ago not many vote you could easily manipulate it to make money if smart enough, doesn't have to bb could be anyone

Odds dont determine the event though, that's what people forget.. There is still a match/competition/vote/event to be played out.. I bet USA hockey team beating Russia in that famous upset back in the day was a bigger price and look at Nadal the other day at the exact same price 1/20, no uproar there

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Novo

Odds dont determine the event though, that's what people forget.. There is still a match/competition/vote/event to be played out.. I bet USA hockey team beating Russia in that famous upset back in the day was a bigger price and look at Nadal the other day at the exact same price 1/20, no uproar there

doesn't matter there is always a investiagtion when odds that high lose
its rare. if the odds are last minute not weeks prior.

this was 2 horse race one was a dead cert.

what team wins what is totally different

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Go cry to Ofcom.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Go cry to Ofcom.

Exactly. Do something about it if you genuinely think there is something unlawful going on.

[Achilles]

Odds are irrelevant. Polls only measure the opinion of the people who choose to vote on the poll. The Big Brother audience is larger than 5-6k.

You also have to factor in the number of times each fan/hater votes.

[JohnBlox]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Odds are irrelevant. Polls only measure the opinion of the people who choose to vote on the poll. The Big Brother audience is larger than 5-6k.

You also have to factor in the number of times each fan/hater votes.

Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by JohnBlox

Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

The fans of Ash each vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The haters of Matthew vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The fans of Matthew don't see the danger.
The haters of Ash don't feel the need to vote as they think it is a foregone conclusion.
Result = Matthew evicted

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Achilles

The fans of Ash each vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The haters of Matthew vote heavily to evict Matthew.
The fans of Matthew don't see the danger.
The haters of Ash don't feel the need to vote as they think it is a foregone conclusion.
Result = Matthew evicted

This is true.

Fans get complacent and think certain HMs are safe so they don't vote. It's why Natalie Cassidy went in CBB for example. People were shocked then.

Also regarding odds - Costa Rica were 2500/1 to win the World cup at the start! The total outsiders.

Now they are in the quarter finals having won their group.

Bookies odds are usually pretty accurate - but not always.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by JohnBlox

Absolutely, but NOT against odds that extreme. It's like betting there's snow in the Sahara in the summer and it coming in! A betting syndicate scam for sure.

No way I think ch5 would've rigged it, but I think they know it is rigged by now but won't admit it as if the integrity of the vote is admitted rather than being suspected by everyone the show will die - $ talks & bs walks. Of course Mathew got more votes than Ash but NO way from the public.

Your missing a crucial point, if this was some fix or insider manipulation, Chrismass would have gone, not Mat. They'd want to save the controversial characters not evict them.

Its not fixed, put plainly Ashleighs vile and eye scratchingly hate inducing behaviour this week got Mat evicted. It was basically that show when she sat in the DR smugly congratulating herself with that prissy look on her face then the next show when she was awful to Kim and generally very fake, he was doomed from then on.

Where as Helen realised she was proving to be Ashs undoing and didnt react to Ashleighs little game, Helen won basically... deal with it people

[Brother Leon]

Ash was at 1/10 5mins before he beat Toya last week...

[waylander1973]

I did say, in another much earlier post that facebook bb had turned on ashleigh, and wanted matthew gone because for their 'friendship', and could not vote ashleigh.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

I did say, in another much earlier post that facebook bb had turned on ashleigh, and wanted matthew gone because for their 'friendship', and could not vote ashleigh.

I think that is one of the reasons, also people were positive all week Ash would go, and just didn't bother voting. As well, Ash had a pretty good couple of days on the highlights shows and Matt was seen bitching.

Also I'm sure people who gamble have some influence, there was a chance for some to make a lot of money.

[chuff me dizzy]

Im not one of those people who shout FIX ,but in this case it must have been ,theres no way someone whos 1-10 (as Ash was today) could possibly stay ,and several on BB Facebook asked why when they posted it was fixed were their comments removed