[Vladimir]

Out of all housemates only Helen and her bff Kim have been talking **** about Ashleigh since the beginning. Ash and Pav said that don't want her to win and that she's boring but that's not bad.

If Ashleigh's so nasty, miserable, bitchy and awful to live with why is Helen the only one who is bothered by that?

On the other hand, many housemates (evicted and current) have had arguments with Helen and generally dislike her (Ashleigh, Danielle, Chris, Christopher, Matthew, Toya, Jale).

[JoshBB]

Actually, Kim used to be close friends with Ashleigh but that ended when she found out Ashleigh was talking **** about her with Danielle behind her back.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Actually, Kim used to be close friends with Ashleigh but that ended when she found out Ashleigh was talking **** about her with Danielle behind her back.

I think you'll find that Danielle and Ashleigh started bitching about Kim when she flew up Helen's arse.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I think you'll find that Danielle and Ashleigh started bitching about Kim when she flew up Helen's arse.

It's crowded up there

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I think you'll find that Danielle and Ashleigh started bitching about Kim when she flew up Helen's arse.

And look what Kimberly turned out to be, seem's she was right about her.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

And look what Kimberly turned out to be, seem's she was right about her.

She absolutely was

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

And look what Kimberly turned out to be, seem's she was right about her.

Yet but couldn't be more wrong about Danielle.

[jessicadanielle]

Tbh I think a lot of ex hms e.g. Steven, Winston would now claim not to like Ashleigh, but I do believe they're just taking sides and bitter that she has a chance of winning. The people you listed above who dislike Helen all have had personal run ins with her so have a reason of their own to dislike her.

Pretty sure Jale does like Helen though?

[kefln]

The OP makes a good point.

Ash had a problem with her weeks ago, before BB played anything back. But they have got on fairly well recently. The others only comment on how she sits apart, but she could say the same. In fact I think it was Ash that said it wasn't a big deal, that the two groups just have different things to talk about.

Kim has her reasons, but Winston only started mouthing off since leaving, he had no problems with her in the house.

[Tom4784]

It's only the clique that really dislikes her that everyone aside from the clique hated Helen. It's very telling.

[Denver]

All the ex housemates disliked her apart from mathew and danielle

[Pink Pegasus]

I think it's because she can see that Ashleigh has just as bitchy a side as herself but a lot of others seem oblivious to it, so Helen finds it incredibly frustrating that they only see this "cute" and "sweet" side which Helen sees as an act.
I think Helen already explained her reasons well for her dislike of Ashleigh.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by adamski94

All the ex housemates disliked her apart from mathew and danielle

If that was the case, Toya wouldn't want her to win

[Denver]

Originally Posted by MB&U

If that was the case, Toya wouldn't want her to win

Toya who? Her opinion is invalid and biased

[Lstan]

whoops wrong thread sorry *deleted*

[M X]

Because Ashleigh is everything Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Because Ashleigh is everything Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

Helen does seem to have a real problem with Ashleigh. I think part of it is because she does not get the reaction she wants.
Ashleigh does not enter into the huge shouting matches that others have with Helen & seems (most of the time) to keep her cool.
This frustrates Helen.

[M X]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

Helen does seem to have a real problem with Ashleigh. I think part of it is because she does not get the reaction she wants.
Ashleigh does not enter into the huge shouting matches that others have with Helen & seems (most of the time) to keep her cool.
This frustrates Helen.

Helen's dislike for Ashleigh stems from pure jealousy. It's so painfully obvious to watch. Helen is the biggest attention seeker in the house. As soon as Ashleigh gets any attention, Helen immediately does something that will get it back to her. One example was last night's show when Ash was talking to Ashleigh, and Helen stormed off crying knowing that it would make her look like a victim.

She's pathetic.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Helen's dislike for Ashleigh stems from pure jealousy. It's so painfully obvious to watch. Helen is the biggest attention seeker in the house. As soon as Ashleigh gets any attention, Helen immediately does something that will get it back to her. One example was last night's show when Ash was talking to Ashleigh, and Helen stormed off crying knowing that it would make her look like a victim.

She's pathetic.

So flirting with a man or trying to get close to a man or fake crying or bitching or dirty looks isnt attention seeking?

[M X]

Originally Posted by adamski94

So flirting with a man or trying to get close to a man or fake crying or bitching or dirty looks isnt attention seeking?

Where was Ashleigh flirting with Ash? All she did was put her head on his shoulder. And I thought that Helen was so insistent that there was nothing going on between her and Ash? So even if Ashleigh was flirting with him, what is it to Helen?

And as far as 'fake crying' goes, at least there was real tears with Ashleigh. The same can't be said for Helen. That crying in the toilet last night was almost comical. The over-exagerated sounds, and "Don't open the door I don't want people to see me", yeah because you don't want people to realise that you are faking the whole thing.

The reaching that is done by Helen fans to try and smear Ashleigh

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Because Ashleigh is everything Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

Pretty much this. Helen's jealous of Ashleigh's youth and opportunity.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by MichaelSpears

Because Ashleigh is everything Helen wishes she was.

Classy, young, intelligent, naturally beautiful, and popular.

Exactly...and Steven, Kimberley and Winston...all of Helens arselickers only hate her for the same reason.

[Brother Leon]

Why do 95% of the HMs entered enjoy Helen's company more than the "nice team"?

[Marsh.]

Helen is 27, she's hardly old.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ash doesn't really like her, he thinks she's boring its not just Helen.

A lot of the housemates didn't like her or thought she was boring.

It transpires that Winston cant stand her lol