[Jack_]

...the whole Ashleigh vs Helen thing? At risk of ironically starting it up again it's seriously so tiresome entering every thread to see it become the same 'well Helen's done this' and 'Ashleigh did that' in endless arguments that are just so draining.

Helen and Ashleigh have both been amazing housemates this series and are without a doubt the two biggest characters and the most deserving winners, but neither of them are going to win. So ultimately the attempts to prove that one persons support is dwindling while the others is increasing is pointless because neither Helen or Ashleigh will win and they were never going to. This is Christopher's to lose and has been ever since Winston left. The public don't like the biggest characters that have brought the most to the show, they like the inoffensive nice guys...and that's Christopher.

It pains me to say it because despite what other people think I've actually enjoyed this series - but it's making me look forward to the end so that it will stop. It's just so unnecessary. Both of them have been great housemates, both of them have helped each other contribute to the storyline and both of them have no chance of winning. So please can we just stop it

[reece(:]

I'm tired of all threads being derailed into the same old drivel debates and I support both too which is what makes it tiring to read.

[Samm]

I agree so much, I don't mind Helen but this forum has made me turn against her

But it won't stop since BB are trying to make it happen

[Jordan.]

It's funny because if the anti Ashleigh brigade had got behind someone like Chris or Christopher they would have had more chance of not letting her win

[Jack_]

Yeah I agree that the producers have played a part in pitting them against each other too and things like the Court Room task or discussions on BOTS about who caused the divide as if it's a negative thing are so irritating

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It's funny because if the anti Ashleigh brigade had got behind someone like Chris or Christopher they would have had more chance of not letting her win

I've accepted she's going to win regardless and has been for weeks. Doesn't mean I can't think Helen is the best in there.

[Kizzy]

People will support who they like, and defend them.. that's how it works as the house gets smaller. Do you mean comments like 'anti ashleigh brigade'? and silly little pictures?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

People will support who they like, and defend them.. that's how it works as the house gets smaller. Do you mean comments like 'anti ashleigh brigade'? and silly little pictures?

I mean all of it. From the 'Helen's nasty Facebook messages discovered!!!!!!!' to 'Ashleigh was appaz a bully at school omg!!!!111' to 'Helen was a dirty *****!!!' to 'omg look at Ashleigh bitching as if nobody else ever has!!!!!!!!!!' to 'Ashleigh's Facebook support is decreasing!!' (seriously who cares what the cad ladies think they know nothing) to 'Helen's odds are shortening!!!'. Just this endless stream of 'Helen did this, Ashleigh said that blah blah blah'. Both of them have been the best housemates this year but neither of them are going to win. So the desperate attempts from both sides to try and criticise or derail the campaigns are pointless, even more so since they're both great housemates and have both helped each other out in that respect.

[Marc]

Much appreciated thread but it won't work.

I don't know why people get so riled up about a tv show

[Patricia4]

I agree Jack its all about Helen and Ashleigh they are both like each other but some posts are getting very nasty.
Ive liked this BB and Im not bothered who wins it wont change my life but I do like to see a good winner.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I mean all of it. From the 'Helen's nasty Facebook messages discovered!!!!!!!' to 'Ashleigh was appaz a bully at school omg!!!!111' to 'Helen was a dirty *****!!!' to 'omg look at Ashleigh bitching as if nobody else ever has!!!!!!!!!!' to 'Ashleigh's Facebook support is decreasing!!' (seriously who cares what the cad ladies think they know nothing) to 'Helen's odds are shortening!!!'. Just this endless stream of 'Helen did this, Ashleigh said that blah blah blah'. Both of them have been the best housemates this year but neither of them are going to win. So the desperate attempts from both sides to try and criticise or derail the campaigns are pointless, even more so since they're both great housemates and have both helped each other out in that respect.

This is a big brother forum, it's the nature of the beast. Just don't go on those threads if they annoy you.

[Marc]

What if... I just deleted them all

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Marc

What if... I just deleted them all

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This is a big brother forum, it's the nature of the beast. Just don't go on those threads if they annoy you.

Every thread is one of them though, that's the problem. No matter what the discussion being had in the Big Brother section, someone will find a way to turn it into Ashleigh vs Helen and then off we go again. Every. Single. Thread.

That's what my point is, it's unnecessary and tiresome.

[Marsh.]

I'll bump this thread when the forum's dead in October.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Marc

What if... I just deleted them all

Pick a hm at random and each day delete all their threads

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I mean all of it. From the 'Helen's nasty Facebook messages discovered!!!!!!!' to 'Ashleigh was appaz a bully at school omg!!!!111' to 'Helen was a dirty *****!!!' to 'omg look at Ashleigh bitching as if nobody else ever has!!!!!!!!!!' to 'Ashleigh's Facebook support is decreasing!!' (seriously who cares what the cad ladies think they know nothing) to 'Helen's odds are shortening!!!'. Just this endless stream of 'Helen did this, Ashleigh said that blah blah blah'. Both of them have been the best housemates this year but neither of them are going to win. So the desperate attempts from both sides to try and criticise or derail the campaigns are pointless, even more so since they're both great housemates and have both helped each other out in that respect.

And have you noticed that a lot of those threads are from junior members with less than 50 posts. BB staff creating accounts to stir things up to get the maximum kerching ŁŁŁ on friday. It's pathetic.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Every thread is one of them though, that's the problem. No matter what the discussion being had in the Big Brother section, someone will find a way to turn it into Ashleigh vs Helen and then off we go again. Every. Single. Thread.

That's what my point is, it's unnecessary and tiresome.

Well I can't see it getting any better before friday, moaning about it won't help

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'll bump this thread when the forum's dead in October.

We may aswell all sod off home

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Every thread is one of them though, that's the problem. No matter what the discussion being had in the Big Brother section, someone will find a way to turn it into Ashleigh vs Helen and then off we go again. Every. Single. Thread.

That's what my point is, it's unnecessary and tiresome.

[Arkay]

The problem is people are seeing arguments when they're not there and over reacting.

A post simply saying "Helen was being a little aggressive today" would be met with "WHY DO YOU HATE HELEN SO MUCH SHE'S AMAZING. HELEN TO WIN. ASHLEIGH IS A BITCH!1111!!!" and likewise with Ashleigh.

Just saying, people can be a little delusional on this forum in their blind support of certain housemates.

[mrflibble]

I agree because the Helen vs Ashleigh thing is just BB twisting the story line and I don't think it's as big a thing as they make out. There is conflict and a clash there, but who cares? I hate Helen for reasons completely unrelated to Ashleigh and I like Ashleigh for reasons completely unrelated to Helen. It's a bit annoying that they're both always chucked together in every scenario.

Both 'sides' keep posting baiting threads though and it's no wonder that it keeps coming up. Someone will post like 'oh look Helen is being a [something that Helen fans call Ashleigh]' and vice versa. I also dislike the blind adoration for every housemate where they can do no wrong.

[Pete.]

Yeah I agree actually OP

[Firewire]

jack speaks the truth once again

[Jake.]

Agree 100000%, no lies spotted