[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by LukeB

nope! but hopefully i'm on it next year

Are you on starnow or have you appeared on tv before?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Helen did all that but not Aaron, Denise Welch, Paddy Gypsy, Alex Reid?

Everyone had their cutting off point. Nastiness, laughing at others and school girl name calling, picking on those perceived as weaker, no self awareness, still spiteful towards others even in victory is mine. I get it if it's not yours.

[Robodog]

BB has always been full of infuriating aspects and moments.

Conor's £50k still winds me up to think about it.

Yet i will always watch BB as there is no show like it. There is no greater subject than people watching and BB lets us do just that, watching human interaction in all it's muck and glory.

And best of all is how nicely long it is, watching events and relationships and egos unfurl over a nice thick wodge of time.

So for all the manipulation and rough justice and the many moments we all scream at the telly (or at each other) - it's worth it for that totally addictive adventure of watching human beings we love and hate slug it out in bizarre circumstances in sunny Borehamwood.

It's the ultimate guilty pleasure TV show and a great thing to share with others across the land and on forums like this.

[Dollface]

I'm utterly disgusted that the public would crown Helen the winner. And i'm disgusted that BB allowed her to get away with things that no other housemate has been allowed to get away with.
IMO Helen was worse than Jade Goody, but remember the hate she received? ..Why didn't Helen receive that hate?
So for Helen, a bully, to win 100k & be crowned Big Brother 2014's winner, just absolutely sickening.

So no i wont be watching BB anymore, celeb BB can do one too.

[duclos]

I was pleased with the winner as Helen did the most to carry the series. She was the biggest character and even though she was a bitch sometimes she does deserve that much. Give it a go next year as there may be changes. If not you can switch off. I for one LOVED this series and DEFINITELY will watch next year!

[Firewire]

No, I'm not bitter... why would I turn my back on a show after the person I didn't like wins? I like Helen, but didn't like Sam or Luke A...

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by jet

.. and when she cruelly slagged off Matthew. .

ps - that was just her responding to Matthew calling her a tramp after she had won, so that's fair game

[Rageofangels]

I think Helen's main problem was her aggressive behaviour when confronting anyone. She'd go right up to them and shout at full volume, using as many expletives as she could.

[puzzled]

No way. Each year is different.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Everyone had their cutting off point. Nastiness, laughing at others and school girl name calling, picking on those perceived as weaker, no self awareness, still spiteful towards others even in victory is mine. I get it if it's not yours.

Yet you supported Ashleigh.

She slagged Matthew off because he called her a tramp. It was a fair retaliation.

[jet]

Originally Posted by puzzled

No way. Each year is different.

But the knowledge that the British voting public voted for an aggressive, nasty and so un - aware person makes me feel that they have no real values or idea of what self respect is. I very nearly reached the end when they voted the bed pissing, s***ting and booze sodden Charlotte as their winner of CBB - but at least she had a good heart and I could understand it.
Dignity, manners and self respect are qualities to be seen as 'boring' and nastiness, aggression, sneering at those perceived as weaker and explicit sex talk are 'cool'. You can be a nice person with manners and still be entertaining, but that's not want is wanted anymore.

Therefore Helen won. Why would I want to even give another series the time of day? I have grown up kids who watch BB and they feel the same as I do. Disgusted, ashamed and sorry that we wasted 2 hours of our lives every night for 10 weeks watching a farce dictated by a production team to get the outcome they wanted....a far cry from the basic premise that has been going downhill for a long time and has reached rock bottom for me and mine.
If that is what continues to float your boat...enjoy...but it's a pile of mind numbing, contrived s*** and a waste of time for me. Over and out....

[Rageofangels]

Great post

[ruiphillips]

For the first time since BB1 I'm considering never watching BB again. It's awful, such a non-event and awarding awful winners like Helen. CBB will be the only one i'll be checking out.

[JohnnyBB]

There is no next year just cause theres auditions it hasent been confimred by viacom

[BeloTheBelt]

Ive seen every UK BB and CBB and so its kind of in my blood but this one has certainly left a bad taste in my mouth.
Will continue watching...for now

[billy123]

I will say goodbye to the whiners just because some people didnt get their own way they whine like little girls.
Welcome to the ignore list

[JTM45]

Unless there's a major re-vamp i won't be bothering next year!
So many things were wrong with the way they ran the show this year that it was beyond a joke!!!

It's reached the point where they're blatantly mocking the viewers and charging them for the pleasure (....at least the ones who spent far too much 'voting'...) and a lot of those people still think they achieved something by allowing themselves to be manipulated into doing exactly what the show's producers wanted them to!

I just hate what they've done to the show and what a piss-poor, barely recognizable mocked-up version of the amazing show it once was it has now become in the grubby mits of Chanel 5! It used to regularly get nominated for awards (i think it even won a few back in the day) and it was recognized as being ground-breaking TV. These days it's embarrassing to even admit that you still watch it.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Firewire

No, I'm not bitter... why would I turn my back on a show after the person I didn't like wins? I like Helen, but didn't like Sam or Luke A...

That's how I feel.

I truly hated Aaron, it baffled me why anyone would vote for him, I felt he was awfully contrived. And I was disappointed in the public for voting him. But that's just it, I can still look back on the series and find lots of parts I enjoyed.

Regarding Helen winning, I'm happy she did. But I was in the fortunate position of liking the last two finalists.

Did Ashleigh come across as a nicer person? No. Both her and Helen displayed bitchiness, rudeness, vindictiveness, and in fact both of them threatened to hurt other people. The main difference is that Helen did it to your face, a lot of the time and Ashleigh didn't. And if you look at both of their journeys, Helen's behavior has been improving for the last three weeks, while Ashleigh's hasn't. The second truce was suggested by Helen, and yes she was manipulating the viewers and at the same time outmaneuvering Ashleigh.

Also Helen simply had way more fun in there that Ashleigh did. She joined in more, she joked around more. Ashleigh a lot of the time was like Helen but with less aggression and a lot less fun.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

That's how I feel.

I truly hated Aaron, it baffled me why anyone would vote for him, I felt he was awfully contrived. And I was disappointed in the public for voting him. But that's just it, I can still look back on the series and find lots of parts I enjoyed.

Regarding Helen winning, I'm happy she did. But I was in the fortunate position of liking the last two finalists.

Did Ashleigh come across as a nicer person? No. Both her and Helen displayed bitchiness, rudeness, vindictiveness, and in fact both of them threatened to hurt other people. The main difference is that Helen did it to your face, a lot of the time and Ashleigh didn't. And if you look at both of their journeys, Helen's behavior has been improving for the last three weeks, while Ashleigh's hasn't. The second truce was suggested by Helen, and yes she was manipulating the viewers and at the same time outmaneuvering Ashleigh.

Also Helen simply had way more fun in there that Ashleigh did. She joined in more, she joked around more. Ashleigh a lot of the time was like Helen but with less aggression and a lot less fun.

Bang on GypsyGoth !

[Ammi]

..I think if I stopped watching it, it would be more to do with the different Channel 5 format than who won because toward the end/whoever I've preferred I very rarely have strong feelings about the actual winner...but although I preferred 'old BB' and this is completely different in the characters that they choose..it seems to be less the channel 5 original series and too much building up public 'hate'..and whatever their flaws etc..I don't think any housemate deserves that for putting themselves up to be judged and entertaining us....

[KADENACY]

I'll Keep On Saying Hello To Big Brother!

Quote:Jet


But the knowledge that the British voting public voted for an aggressive, nasty and so un - aware person makes me feel that they have no real values or idea of what self respect is.
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The people who voted for Helen may not have been in a majority:-They
probably used multi-voting and had more voting power and multiple votes
than Ashleigh supporters.So it is possiable that Ashleigh has more supporters
than Helen,but its just that Helen supporters voted more times than Ashleigh
fans. I myself voted a number of times for Ashleigh.

I like Helen.She is a bit rough,crude and over the top at times by her own
admission,and she said that she would have been voted out weeks since
if she hadn't had that free pass to the final.She said on last night's Big Brother's Bit On The Side-BBBOTS that she "hadn't won Big Brother" and then broke down - I think she felt humbled.She said that she is now going to
try to become a better person and treat people with more respect,and cut down on her swearing.
Helen was aggressive in the Big Brother House,but the people who voted for
her was not voting for her rough side,they voted for Helen's friendly,caring
good-hearted side,etc,the qualities that helped her form friendships with
her fellow Big Brother UK 15 2014 Housemates,such as Ash,Mark,Steven
and Kimberly.

Having said all that,when Helen was given that free pass I thought that I
hope Pauline has made the right choice and not given it to a bitch!
Given that Helen was warned two her or three times in the diary room for her abusive behaviour,which started calls to remove her final pass,the outcome of Big Brother UK 15 would have been much fairer if Ashleigh had won - some people will say that by rights Ashleigh DID WIN Big Brother UK
15 2014!

Big Brother UK producers are always experimenting,some times they get it right,and sometimes they get it wrong - was Helen's free pass right or wrong?! Anyway,Big Brother producers are always striving to keep the programme fresh.

Well done Helen,anyway And I will continue to enjoy the regular
Big Brother UK and Celebrity Big Brother UK programmes! And I hope that everyone else does!

[Jord]

It was a **** series but I'll still watch next year

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

no lol, I never understand when there's a bad series people quit the thing with BB it changes every year

Yes for me, it has gradually got worse so I cannot see it changing it is heading towards the gutter.

[tonster76]

I was just thinking that. Bull****, I can't be bothered watching it any more. Helen? couldn't be a least deserving winner, and the media couldn't have more of an agenda to make win.

did people really vote for her?

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jet

But the knowledge that the British voting public voted for an aggressive, nasty and so un - aware person makes me feel that they have no real values or idea of what self respect is. I very nearly reached the end when they voted the bed pissing, s***ting and booze sodden Charlotte as their winner of CBB - but at least she had a good heart and I could understand it.
Dignity, manners and self respect are qualities to be seen as 'boring' and nastiness, aggression, sneering at those perceived as weaker and explicit sex talk are 'cool'. You can be a nice person with manners and still be entertaining, but that's not want is wanted anymore.

Therefore Helen won. Why would I want to even give another series the time of day? I have grown up kids who watch BB and they feel the same as I do. Disgusted, ashamed and sorry that we wasted 2 hours of our lives every night for 10 weeks watching a farce dictated by a production team to get the outcome they wanted....a far cry from the basic premise that has been going downhill for a long time and has reached rock bottom for me and mine.
If that is what continues to float your boat...enjoy...but it's a pile of mind numbing, contrived s*** and a waste of time for me. Over and out....

I feel the same and tbh for me I have to get out now, I cannot be doing with all the frustration of not knowing whether it is a fair show. I am so inclined to think that it is very unfair, too many people have put things in the air re the Agencies and the Sour Grapes Brigade. I have stood by Chris since day two and I applaud him for his tenacity, his honesty and his dry humour. As Emma said his DR chats were what the public were thinking.

The only thing I liked about BOTS last evening was the end bit with the "Bitch and her Boys", I loved Chris' intake, now why werent we ever shown anything like this. Why werent we treated to Ash and Chris' artistic natures. There are a lot of whys for me but the biggest one is why was Helen given the free pass? That for me is where the unfairness began.