[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Gary's entrance was hilarious!

It was brilliant the guy just had a hard time hearing Emma with all the commotion from the crowd ect that's all but people took that as he was some invalid and called Ofcom to register their concern lol.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's the BBC, no connection to BB.

Try not paying your tv licence and still watch ch5. When you figure that out, please call me, I have a website and we could make a fortune.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

It was brilliant the guy just had a hard time hearing Emma with all the commotion from the crowd ect that's all but people took that as he was some invalid and called Ofcom to register their concern lol.

His flirting with Emma.

[the truth]

he is being bullied but because hes a man and an american man, its seen as fair game
this is the most sexist man hating show in tv history
imagine any man had cut up womens clothing the way frenchy did to leslie? imagine a man behaved like bianca demanding they get shagged on the floor and that he wanted to suck a womans vagina within 90 minutes of being on the show or hit a housemate in the face the way denise welch did to michael madsen or the way she pulled down a womans pyjamas to try expose her vagina? its nonsense. and the longer it goes on the worse it gets, thats why i keep banging on about it. frenchy should be booted out immediately when she starts damagig other peoples property

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by the truth

he is being bullied but because hes a man and an american man, its seen as fair game
this is the most sexist man hating show in tv history
imagine any man had cut up womens clothing the way frenchy did to leslie? imagine a man behaved like bianca demanding they get shagged on the floor and that he wanted to suck a womans vagina within 90 minutes of being on the show or hit a housemate in the face the way denise welch did to michael madsen or the way she pulled down a womans pyjamas to try expose her vagina? its nonsense. and the longer it goes on the worse it gets, thats why i keep banging on about it. frenchy should be booted out immediately when she starts damagig other peoples property

He'll be fine. He's quite chilled out and relaxed.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Try not paying your tv licence and still watch ch5. When you figure that out, please call me, I have a website and we could make a fortune.

The TV license doesn't pay for C5.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

It was brilliant the guy just had a hard time hearing Emma with all the commotion from the crowd ect that's all but people took that as he was some invalid and called Ofcom to register their concern lol.

I think you might be the only person south of the north pole that thinks he is sane and normal. The rest of us seem to be using perception coupled with 20/20 vision to come up with the theory that he is as batty as a box of frogs, ergo he isn't the full shilling and needs careful consideration in matters that concern morality and correctness.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I think you might be the only person south of the north pole that thinks he is sane and normal. The rest of us seem to be using perception coupled with 20/20 vision to come up with the theory that he is as batty as a box of frogs, ergo he isn't the full shilling and needs careful consideration in matters that concern morality and correctness.

He's very odd but he's a nice guy.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The TV license doesn't pay for C5.

Read my post again, hun, I made a reference to the fact that the tv licence governs the reception of what we all regard as a tv service into our homes. Ive tried telling them I don't watch BBC but it don't work, lol.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Read my post again, hun, I made a reference to the fact that the tv licence governs the reception of what we all regard as a tv service into our homes. Ive tried telling them I don't watch BBC but it don't work, lol.

It's still irrelevant to the post I responded to "I don't pay a tv license to watch people treated like that" well their tv license doesn't contribute to the show in any way shape or form.

Also plenty people get away with avoiding paying it. Especially when it comes to the loophole of not watching TV "live".

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I think you might be the only person south of the north pole that thinks he is sane and normal. The rest of us seem to be using perception coupled with 20/20 vision to come up with the theory that he is as batty as a box of frogs, ergo he isn't the full shilling and needs careful consideration in matters that concern morality and correctness.

I don't recall using either word in my post? You sure you have 20/20 vision?

Are you saying Gary is insane then? Theres a difference between having a brain injury and being mentally ill.

Gary is a 70 year old man with an accomplished career who lives independently its a shame people are trying to label and oppress him I don't understand why people cant just accept that that's his character and let him be without feeling they have to play the condescending good Samaritan.

Hopefully you don't see this as me personally attacking you

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's very odd but he's a nice guy.

Absobloodylutamenty, he is the main reason for watching along with Frenchy and the things George comes out with. The rest are also rans in my book so far.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I think you might be the only person south of the north pole that thinks he is sane and normal. The rest of us seem to be using perception coupled with 20/20 vision to come up with the theory that he is as batty as a box of frogs, ergo he isn't the full shilling and needs careful consideration in matters that concern morality and correctness.

Being hard of hearing and a little slower doesn't make someone insane or "batty".

Nobody's perfect.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I don't recall using either word in my post? You sure you have 20/20 vision?

Are you saying Gary is insane then? Theres a difference between having a brain injury and being mentally ill.

Gary is a 70 year old man with an accomplished career who lives independently its a shame people ae trying to label and oppress him I don't understand why people cant just accept that that's his character and let him be without feeling they have to play the condescending good Samaritan.

Hopefully you don't see this as me personally attacking you

Of course he isn't insane, he is a dotty 70 year old with a penchant for the macabre. He certainly isn't going to win mastermind, but there is a world of difference between a dotty 70yr old and a medically insane person. However in fairness, he is a long way short of the normal type you are trying to portray him as.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Of course he isn't insane, he is a dotty 70 year old with a penchant for the macabre. He certainly isn't going to win mastermind, but there is a world of difference between a dotty 70yr old and a medically insane person. However in fairness, he is a long way short of the normal type you are trying to portray him as.

I don't understand, you say ofcourse he isn't insane but you also say "I think you might be the only person south of the north pole that thinks he is sane and normal. The rest of us seem to be using perception coupled with 20/20 vision to come up with the theory that he is as batty as a box of frogs".

This thread is just full of contradictions from the people who are backing the Ofcom crew which says it all really.

[sampvt]

I think the difference here is that we are discussing a HM and his persona, you are dissecting FM's opinions and points of view. Im done debating with you. I cant be arsed anymore because it will end in tears. lets just concede you are totally right and we are all wrong, is that better..

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I think the difference here is that we are discussing a HM and his persona, you are dissecting FM's opinions and points of view. Im done debating with you. I cant be arsed anymore because it will end in tears. lets just concede you are totally right and we are all wrong, is that better..

What are you talking about you're the one saying "I think you might be the only person south of the north pole that thinks he is sane and normal. The rest of us seem to be using perception... " so you are the one saying you are totally right and being overly personal.

The thread isn't about a housemate and his persona the thread is actually directed at the viewers calling Ofcom.

I agree you should just stop commenting because you're going round in circles.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

What are you talking about you're the one saying "I think you might be the only person south of the north pole that thinks he is sane and normal. The rest of us seem to be using perception... " so you are the one saying you are totally right and being overly personal.

The thread isn't about a housemate and his persona the thread is actually directed at the viewers calling Ofcom.

I agree you should just stop commenting because you're going round in circles.

I get the last word, I am older than you

[reece(:]

I think they all need to get a grip on reality.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I get the last word, I am older than you

Older yes wiser probably not.

[jegmeister]

It's good to know a large number of the British public have empathy and understanding for an old man with a serious head injury and struggling with deafness. It would be nice to think that anyone would have compassion for someone in that situation.

Unfortunately, the response from some people on here has been quite the opposite and I have found it quite shocking. Even more incredible to say "well don't watch it if you don't like it". Colossal arrogance. I like this show and I have every right to complain when something I don't like happens on it - as much right as anyone else in fact.

As for the argument that he shouldn't be on the show in the first place, that is not the point. He IS on it - so that is the end of it. And if he is in there, any reasonable needs he has to help with his various conditions should be met. It really does make me quite angry to see the way this man is being treated and the attitude of some people towards him.

[Chopper1986]

Gary rules , personally I'd love to show people like Stephanie Pratt what it feels like to be picked on , verbally abused and left out ! Sure Gary is a bit bizarre but he is only human and misunderstood . As for the rest of them I think they r slowly realising and coming around to Gary's behaviour and his reason behind it , I mean for god sake the dude was in a horrific crash and died twice I'm sure , I'd like to see if any of them who've picked on him could overcome that adversity and go on to star in such classic movies like point break , under siege and predator 2 !!!! Hope they r all ashamed of themselfs upon reflection and apoligize profusely

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Chopper1986

Gary rules , personally I'd love to show people like Stephanie Pratt what it feels like to be picked on , verbally abused and left out ! Sure Gary is a bit bizarre but he is only human and misunderstood . As for the rest of them I think they r slowly realising and coming around to Gary's behaviour and his reason behind it , I mean for god sake the dude was in a horrific crash and died twice I'm sure , I'd like to see if any of them who've picked on him could overcome that adversity and go on to star in such classic movies like point break , under siege and predator 2 !!!! Hope they r all ashamed of themselfs upon reflection and apoligize profusely

OI! don't mock Stephanie Pratt lol shes done nothing wrong.

Every other point you made I agree with though.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Older yes wiser probably not.

I had a retort prepared then I thought why give him oxygen to argue. Ok you are wiser than me, but in reality, I offered you an olive branch last series and you shunned it so I can only assume that you like what you are doing, so lets leave it at that. Wisdom is never measured in battles won, its measured in self awareness and a love for oneself.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

I contacted C5 and Ofcom on the very first night and advised them I thought the inclusion of Gary Busey in a social experiment of this nature was rather ill advised. He does not appear to have the social skills needed and it is going to be car crash tv. I am sure.

Dont underestimate him he has plenty of social skills, I admire people like him who have empathy for others. Those who can chat and put their views over to help charity, to bring together people who have had similar things happen to them. Many just think ah poor me and they stay within the confines of their own minds.

It is his deafness which is not helping at the moment and the fact that James and Leslie have woven their spell around the other sheep. Not one of them at the so called party have felt remorse for the two outside.