[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

ugh racism is actually growing society is going backwards

Unfortunately true.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Agreed Livia we pay the fare so surely we can ask for a driver of our choice.

I agree, and I don't believe that in this instance the request for a 'white driver' was anything to do with preference of skin colour or race per se, but more a case of worried passengers trying to reduce risk - given the case of the 2 jailed Pakistani taxi drivers and the long history of 'grooming' by Asian gangs.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Unfortunately true.

why is that true?

[GiRTh]

Does anyone have any stats to support a passenger is in more danger with an Asian driver?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Does anyone have any stats to support a passenger is in more danger with an Asian driver?

http://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.c...axi-trade-web/

makes interesting reading


but stats are irrelevant, a woman wants to be safe, they live there, they make the choice end of.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.c...axi-trade-web/

makes interesting reading


but stats are irrelevant, a woman wants to be safe, they live there, they make the choice end of.

So no stats just alot of hear say? OK.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

So no stats just alot of hear say? OK.

Are you saying what occurred in Rotherham is nothing but hearsay?

Your own desperation to cry racism at every turn blinds you from the fact that lone women do not wish to risk a taxi ride in a car even if the risk is low?

Did you read the article and the part that cab firms played in the whole disgusting episode?

"On 10 September 2014, the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Eric Pickles, announced that an independent investigation would be held into whether Rotherham Council covered up information about the abuse. The investigation would be led by Louise Casey, Director-General of the government's Troubled Families programme, and would examine the council's governance, services for children and young people, and taxi and private hire licensing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherh...tation_scandal


I know what I would be telling my daughter

[LeatherTrumpet]

This week, Emma told me that she and her family believe at least 90 other child sex attackers in Rotherham escaped justice.

Two of the handful convicted are already back in town: Mohsin Khan, 26, was given a four-year sentence for grooming a 13-year-old girl for sex; and Umar Razaq, 27, was imprisoned for less than a year for having sex with a 12-year-old girl, because he had spent time on remand.

Emma says today: ‘Tarik was never arrested. Three of his brothers, who were doing the same thing to girls, were not either. Most of the men who sexually exploited me are running taxi firms, takeaways, or car washes in town.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3Gto31xu8

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Are you saying what occurred in Rotherham is nothing but hearsay?

Your own desperation to cry racism at every turn blinds you from the fact that lone women do not wish to risk a taxi ride in a car even if the risk is low?

Did you read the article and the part that cab firms played in the whole disgusting episode?

"On 10 September 2014, the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Eric Pickles, announced that an independent investigation would be held into whether Rotherham Council covered up information about the abuse. The investigation would be led by Louise Casey, Director-General of the government's Troubled Families programme, and would examine the council's governance, services for children and young people, and taxi and private hire licensing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherh...tation_scandal


I know what I would be telling my daughter

Thats Rotherham not Rochdale. Do you have anything on Rochdale?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Thats Rotherham not Rochdale. Do you have anything on Rochdale?

after two taxi drivers of Pakistani origin were jailed for their part in the sex trafficking and rape of young white girls in the town.

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As I say, any father would welcome this decision and its not like Rotherham is far away

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

after two taxi drivers of Pakistani origin were jailed for their part in the sex trafficking and rape of young white girls in the town.

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As I say, any father would welcome this decision and its not like Rotherham is far away

That article mentions two drivers. TWO!!!!! Two drivers in the whole of Rochdale. Thats it? Apparently there are similar gangs in Oxford and Derby but I've never heard of them requested 'white/local' drivers.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

That article mentions two drivers. TWO!!!!! Two drivers in the whole of Rochdale. Thats it? Apparently there are similar gangs in Oxford and Derby but I've never heard of them requested 'white/local' drivers.

So how many rapes would you like before parents get worried 10, 50 100?




"The Rochdale sex trafficking gang was a group of men who preyed on under-age teenage girls in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, England. They were convicted of sex trafficking on 8 May 2012; other offences included rape, trafficking girls for sex and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child. Forty-seven girls were identified as victims of child sexual exploitation during the police investigation. The men were all British Pakistanis (except for one from Afghanistan) and from Muslim backgrounds, and the girls were White; this has led to national discussion of whether the crimes were racially motivated, or, conversely, whether the early failure to investigate them was linked to the authorities' fear of being accused of racism. The men were aged between 24 and 59 and knew each other in various ways. Two worked for the same taxi firm and another two worked at a takeaway restaurant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdal...afficking_gang

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So how many rapes would you like before parents get worried 10, 50 100?




"The Rochdale sex trafficking gang was a group of men who preyed on under-age teenage girls in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, England. They were convicted of sex trafficking on 8 May 2012; other offences included rape, trafficking girls for sex and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child. Forty-seven girls were identified as victims of child sexual exploitation during the police investigation. The men were all British Pakistanis (except for one from Afghanistan) and from Muslim backgrounds, and the girls were White; this has led to national discussion of whether the crimes were racially motivated, or, conversely, whether the early failure to investigate them was linked to the authorities' fear of being accused of racism. The men were aged between 24 and 59 and knew each other in various ways. Two worked for the same taxi firm and another two worked at a takeaway restaurant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdal...afficking_gang

As I said there are apparently similar gangs all over the country but I;ve only heard of this in Rochdale.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

As I said there are apparently similar gangs all over the country.

Well good for Rochdale cab firm for taking a stand

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well good for Rochdale cab firm for taking a stand

Yes. Good for them to be the first to oblige with only white drivers. Its a nice precedent to set.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Yes. Good for them to be the first to oblige with only white drivers. Its a nice precedent to set.

safety comes before bleeding hearts

[GiRTh]

There is apparently a sex trafficking gang in Derby which I live less than 10 miles from where I live and I've never heard of this precedent.

[Toy Soldier]

Not overly concerned about being raped... but I would note that when I lived in a town in the north of England, I did much prefer getting a "local" driver, simply because the (only) taxi company in the town - when it sent a "less local" driver - they had no idea where they were going. And we're not talking obscure addresses here - one didn't know how to get to the local swimming pool. So I was sat in this taxi, directing the driver around town. And he barely spoke English.

So... yeah. I guess that's about my criteria for taxi drivers.

- Knows the town
- Speaks English
- Can drive.

Happy enough with that. Not really going to start racial profiling for potentially being raped. Apparently, white British men also have penises and sometimes even use them to have non-consensual sex. Wacky, I know, but there it is.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Livia

If someone wants an Asian driver I don't have a problem with them asking and one being provided. I don't see that anyone would have a problem with it. The problem here is they're asking for a white driver so they've GOT to be racist, right?

Would it be sexist for me to request a female driver? No... what's the difference?

[Kyle]

When I worked in the main park in the centre of town (Rotherham) we were instructed to watch out for Asian taxi drivers looking to pick up girls at the comp that was bang opposite the park.

This was before the sh*t hit the fan with all the revelations but people knew what was going on. I can't speak for the rest of the country but If I was a vulnerable young girl/woman in Rotherham I would probably not take a taxi alone.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

safety comes before bleeding hearts

But don't white people rape too?

I'm sorry i'm not being serious.
Edit: Actually i'm not sorry. If the ring group was white nobody would paint the whole white race as sex ring attackers. But a group of Pakistanis did now all Pakistanis are dangerous towards white women.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why is that true?

More people speaking out about too many cultures in UK, UK not being the same due to other cultures taking over, and just generally feeling it when you go to places that are predominantly white like I did when I went up North a few weeks ago.

[Kizzy]

Living so near Bradford can I honestly say I've never been harassed? ...No.
Do I know if it's endemic? No.

There has for years been a cover up of abuse relating to children in care, do I know it's not race specific? Yes.