[lostalex]

I was reading an article about new dolls that are more realistic" than Barbie and as usual it was slamming Barbie. But as a young boy i had teenage mutant ninja turtle dolls(action figures) are boys toys really any more realistic than girls toys?

Why do so many women and liberals HATE Barbie so much?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I was reading an article about new dolls that are more realistic" than Barbie and as usual it was slamming Barbie. But as a young boy i had teenage mutant ninja turtle dolls(action figures) are boys toys really any more realistic than girls toys?

Why do so many women and liberals HATE Barbie so much?

Because she represents the stereotypical ideal 'woman' image that they know they have no chance of 'measuring' up to if they are female, or ever 'capturing' if they are male.

It's been very telling when I have come across actual footage of some of these 'fem lib' and other groups, that the more physically further from the 'Barbie' image they are, the more extreme and vociferous are their views against her.

For that very same reason of 'not measuring up', I am vehemently against any groups entitled 'The Longer than a 4" Penis Club' or similar.

[lostalex]

well you make a good point. aren't a;; the comic book heroes that boys love growing up, super muscular, always brave, just as unrealistic for boys?

I grew up on comic books, especially x-men, and all the men in the comics have just as unrealistic bodies.

Besides Hugh Jackman(he really does look exactly like wolverine), I've never seen a man that actually looks like the characters from the x-men in real life.

[Northern Monkey]

Well i'm not Action Man but i don't want to ban him.Maybe little girls should only be allowed to play with Rosanne dolls then they can eat like pigs and aspire to be fat.That would be a healthy society eh?
Women are naturally jealous creatures,If it was'nt Barbie it would be something else.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Well i'm not Action Man but i don't want to ban him.Maybe little girls should only be allowed to play with Rosanne dolls then they can eat like pigs and aspire to be fat.That would be a healthy society eh?
Women are naturally jealous creatures,If it was'nt Barbie it would be something else.

LOL (and scared at the same time, waiting for the fem backlash)

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Well i'm not Action Man but i don't want to ban him.Maybe little girls should only be allowed to play with Rosanne dolls then they can eat like pigs and aspire to be fat.That would be a healthy society eh?
Women are naturally jealous creatures,If it was'nt Barbie it would be something else.

Oh please, men are just as jealous of other men, and just as competitive. Humans are jealous creatures.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Barbie never had eagle eyes, gripping hands or an AK47

she was crap

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Barbie never had eagle eyes, gripping hands or an AK47

she was crap

but she had hair that you could cut. you can't give action man a makeover.
I had 3 Barbies and they all ended up bald in the end.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Oh please, men are just as jealous of other men, and just as competitive. Humans are jealous creatures.

No,Women are more jelly.Always eyeing up the competition when they enter a room or making bitchy remarks about each other.I've heard them.Men don't generally look at another man appearance and start bitching,They tend to not give a crap in my experience.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but she had hair that you could cut. you can't give action man a makeover.
I had 3 Barbies and they all ended up bald in the end.

I eventually cut my action mens heads off and melted them with a mag glass and sunshine

[Niall]

Barbie isn't the only children's toy imbued with problems, most kids toys are inherently problematic. They're so encoded with rather toxic messages about gender. All the stereotypical boys toys lean toward this message of violence and being domineering, and all the toys targeted at girls are filled with vapid messages about consumerism and appearance.

That said though, Barbie is an absolutely awful toy. Her body is ridiculously proportioned giving girls a warped view on how women are supposed to look from the outset. Nearly all Barbie advertising focuses on the white, blonde Barbie over any variants that are people of colour, thereby excluding girls of colour. And finally there's the focus on shopping and homemaking in the Barbie line of toys and their advertising campaigns, a very restrictive set of ideas for girls.

And the above can be often be used as a general template for almost any girls toy, especially the latter two things I said. But most of all, the encouragement of nothing but homemaking, consumerism, and a heavy interest in appearance is something in complete contrast at toys for boys. Look at ads for toys targeted at boys and you'll see them often encourage things like creativity whilst using the toy - lego being a prime example of this - amongst other things. Girls toys just.. don't. It's one of the many, many problems with gender.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niall

Barbie isn't the only children's toy imbued with problems, most kids toys are inherently problematic. They're so encoded with rather toxic messages about gender. All the stereotypical boys toys lean toward this message of violence and being domineering, and all the toys targeted at girls are filled with vapid messages about consumerism and appearance.

That said though, Barbie is an absolutely awful toy. Her body is ridiculously proportioned giving girls a warped view on how women are supposed to look from the outset. Nearly all Barbie advertising focuses on the white, blonde Barbie over any variants that are people of colour, thereby excluding girls of colour. And finally there's the focus on shopping and homemaking in the Barbie line of toys and their advertising campaigns, a very restrictive set of ideas for girls.

And the above can be often be used as a general template for almost any girls toy, especially the latter two things I said. But most of all, the encouragement of nothing but homemaking, consumerism, and a heavy interest in appearance is something in complete contrast at toys for boys. Look at ads for toys targeted at boys and you'll see them often encourage things like creativity whilst using the toy - lego being a prime example of this - amongst other things. Girls toys just.. don't. It's one of the many, many problems with gender.

I think you maybe over thinking it.It just so happens that boys and girls are not the same and they enjoy playing with different toys,Yes there are exceptions of Tom boys or boys who play with dolls but generally the toys are aimed at what boys and girls enjoy playing with.They actually want to sell these toys.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I eventually cut my action mens heads off and melted them with a mag glass and sunshine

lol. i had a hot glue gun. all of my g.i. joes ended up being freaky mutants with new super powers by the time i was done with them. they needed to evolve in order to prepare for battle with my ninja turtles.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I think you maybe over thinking it.It just so happens that boys and girls are not the same and they enjoy playing with different toys,Yes there are exceptions of Tom boys or boys who play with dolls but generally the toys are aimed at what boys and girls enjoy playing with.They actually want to sell these toys.

I had about 10 guns, penknives, catapults and fake grenades

mind you so did all boys

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Barbie never had eagle eyes, gripping hands or an AK47

she was crap

Thats what she needs


KaChing

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I had about 10 guns, penknives, catapults and fake grenades

mind you so did all boys

you also tried on your moms panties when your parents went out to dinner.

[arista]

Barbie needs to sit on his lap

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I eventually cut my action mens heads off and melted them with a mag glass and sunshine

I fecking knew you were a devil-worshipping serial killer.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

Barbie needs to sit on his lap

And talk about the first thing that pops up?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you also tried on your moms panties when your parents went out to dinner.

[arista]

A great use of the dolls

[arista]

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niall

and all the toys targeted at girls are filled with vapid messages about consumerism and appearance.

That said though, Barbie is an absolutely awful toy. Her body is ridiculously proportioned giving girls a warped view on how women are supposed to look from the outset. Nearly all Barbie advertising focuses on the white, blonde Barbie over any variants that are people of colour, thereby excluding girls of colour. And finally there's the focus on shopping and homemaking in the Barbie line of toys and their advertising campaigns, a very restrictive set of ideas for girls.

And the above can be often be used as a general template for almost any girls toy, especially the latter two things I said. But most of all, the encouragement of nothing but homemaking, consumerism, and a heavy interest in appearance is something in complete contrast at toys for boys. Look at ads for toys targeted at boys and you'll see them often encourage things like creativity whilst using the toy - lego being a prime example of this - amongst other things. Girls toys just.. don't. It's one of the many, many problems with gender.

The overall gist of your quite admirable post Niall, is that Barbie is the prototype Essex girl?

"Run Kirk, Run".

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

This is truly weird Arista. Does LT know his Love Child is loose?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

A great use of the dolls

-- Gives a whole new meaning to the terms; 'Spooning' and 'Forking topless'.