[Ammi]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I agree.Euthanasia is the easy way out for this animal.He should serve his full sentence.He needs to be punished not have his wishes granted.

..he's human though Paul, he's not an animal..the easy way out surely would have been to accept the parole hearing but he rejected it as he knew he would hurt someone else if released..that's very human..?..he's very ill which is why he did the things he did and feels he will never be better/the illness is something he can't help anymore than you or I could help getting a physical disease so doesn't he deserve to be cared for properly in a clinic even..?...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If he met all the legal criteria for Euthanasia then he shouldn't be refused it unless it's stated in the law that there are exceptions for prisoners. It seems a bit wishy washy and dangerous for the legal system not to stick to it's guns on this issue one way or another.

Well put.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..he's human though Paul, he's not an animal..the easy way out surely would have been to accept the parole hearing but he rejected it as he knew he would hurt someone else if released..that's very human..?..he's very ill which is why he did the things he did and feels he will never be better/the illness is something he can't help anymore than you or I could help getting a physical disease so doesn't he deserve to be cared for properly in a clinic even..?...

I think if he is considered mentally ill and a danger to the public he should serve his sentence and either not be granted parole due to being a danger to the public or sectioned and put into a facility that deals with the criminally insane.

[Benjamin]

Bloody Human Rights sticking their oar in again.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well that's entirely subjective... Maybe the cowards way out is a more attractive prospect than a lifetime of torment based on your murderous past?
Maybe the victims families too would rather he have the chance to reflect, and not have the choice to end his sentence.

You could apply that fuzzy logic to many criminally insane though, he will be controlled with medication. The 'savings to the state' really has no place in an ethical debate either, being purely an economic consideration.

1) Your comments are redundant because I have already covered the points you are making. I always state my case as fully as I can and always expound just why I state what I do, no matter how long such a practice may take me because I believe that serious issues cannot be discussed in a few short comments.

This being so, I have explained my reasons in full why I think he should be allowed to die, and just why I do not believe he is seeking a 'cowards way out'. Read my posts and you'll see.

2) You really should read through your own posts before critising me for 'fuzzy logic".

3) This is not a thread confined specifically to 'ethics'. No one specified so in the original post, and I used the economic factor as just one small part of my case.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Bloody Human Rights sticking their oar in again.

You are most wise Ben.

[armand.kay]

Tbh I don't care if death is an easier was out they should just let this waste of space die. It will free up space in the prison and no one really wants people like him living.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Tbh I don't care if death is an easier was out they should just let this's as of space die. It will free up space in the prison and no one really wants people like him living.

You are most wise too Armand.Kay, and thank God I'm not feeling so outnumbered now.

[Livia]

When you stop behaving like a human you should be prepared to forfeit your Human Rights. Throw him a razor blade and let him get on with it.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia

When you stop behaving like a human you should be prepared to forfeit your Human Rights. Throw him a razor blade and let him get on with it.

My sentiments exactly.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

1) Your comments are redundant because I have already covered the points you are making. I always state my case as fully as I can and always expound just why I state what I do, no matter how long such a practice may take me because I believe that serious issues cannot be discussed in a few short comments.

This being so, I have explained my reasons in full why I think he should be allowed to die, and just why I do not believe he is seeking a 'cowards way out'. Read my posts and you'll see.

2) You really should read through your own posts before critising me for 'fuzzy logic".

3) This is not a thread confined specifically to 'ethics'. No one specified so in the original post, and I used the economic factor as just one small part of my case.

Hey... let's get this clear I don't care what you consider redundant.

I had my say on the topic and that's it if you don't like it or don't agree I'm not interested.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hey... let's get this clear I don't care what you consider redundant.

I had my say on the topic and that's it if you don't like it or don't agree I'm not interested.

Let's get it straight; you didn't have your say on the topic at all - you had another pop at my say, because it is me who is saying it.

It's the author you have the real issue with not what he has written, but as usual with people who are driven to criticise through personal agendas rather than genuine opposition to what is being stated in the post they are purporting to criticise, you have nothing valid to say, because you either don't read what you're criticising, or read it but don't understand.

You purport to respond to my post because you disagree with it, but when I respond to your response for the same reason, you 'cop out' by stating you're 'not interested.

LMFAO.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Let's get it straight; you didn't have your say on the topic at all - you had another pop at my say, because it is me who is saying it.

It's the author you have the real issue with not what he has written, but as usual with people who are driven to criticise through personal agendas rather than genuine opposition to what is being stated in the post they are purporting to criticise, you have nothing valid to say, because you either don't read what you're criticising, or read it but don't understand.

You purport to respond to my post because you disagree with it, but when I respond to your response for the same reason, you 'cop out' by stating you're 'not interested.

LMFAO.

You seem you be taking my stance on this personally... I have no idea why.
I don't have anything against you, I disagree on this is all.
If you don't think I've anything valid to say that's fine, just don't respond to my posts then

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Livia

When you stop behaving like a human you should be prepared to forfeit your Human Rights. Throw him a razor blade and let him get on with it.

My view exactly

And preferably a recently sharpened cut throat razor.






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