[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

They did appear to be going self righteous about what Perez was doing though, and why care if his attention seeking? If they didn't react to it they would actually make him have less entertainment value therefore less of a talking therefore the production would be more willing to lose him, but if they keep reacting over silly things like on the most recent highlight show they will give him sympathy, especially when they're using him to then poke fun at Alicia.

I mean, it was pretty clear from the start that this series will include a bunch of twists to benefit Katie Hopkins and Perez (and now Katie Price.) I don't think that an argument that was about Perez only at face value will increase or decrease the chances of production wanting him around because those chances are already high to begin with.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I mean, it was pretty clear from the start that this series will include a bunch of twists to benefit Katie Hopkins and Perez (and now Katie Price.) I don't think that an argument that was about Perez only at face value will increase or decrease the chances of production wanting him around because those chances are already high to begin with.

Macie..,

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

Ammi...

..Jose....

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I mean, it was pretty clear from the start that this series will include a bunch of twists to benefit Katie Hopkins and Perez (and now Katie Price.) I don't think that an argument that was about Perez only at face value will increase or decrease the chances of production wanting him around because those chances are already high to begin with.

Originally Posted by Ammi

..Jose....

lol

[Macie Lightfoot]

Jose are you here to delicately whisper sweet nothings into my ear?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I actually agree with the OP, I don't think that Alicia is being bullied as such, I think that the other females are being very mean and bitchy to her because she isn't bitchy like them/doesn't want to be part of them and doesn't have a lot in common with them so she's also going to be a target for their bitchiness but I don't think that it's bullying...tbh I think that Katie chastising Keith for giving Perez time and attention or saying...ughhhh, now the others are talking to him or whatever she said could much more be perceived as bullying because she's trying to completely isolate him and influence others into doing the same...

Don't forget Chloe in the Diary Room declaring how she was going to bully Perez on national TV, yet because she's pretty and a female she's liked more than Perez and Nadia on here who have not said anything like that.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Jose are you here to delicately whisper sweet nothings into my ear?

Macie...

[Mystic Mock]

Jacie....

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Don't forget Chloe in the Diary Room declaring how she was going to bully Perez on national TV, yet because she's pretty and a female she's liked more than Perez and Nadia on here who have not said anything like that.

lmfao there are plenty of reasons to like people more than Perez (and Nadia, I suppose, but she doesn't get me worked up like she does to other forum members) let's not get it twisted.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Jacie....

Mocki...

[Jose Mourinho]

I miss the fun! STay strong GUIZ Jose head hit pillow!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

lmfao there are plenty of reasons to like people more than Perez (and Nadia, I suppose, but she doesn't get me worked up like she does to other forum members) let's not get it twisted.

If Perez was female and attractive he would have a fanbase on here, I'm not saying the biggest, but it would be more than 5% or around that area anyway.

Some Forum Members on here only like female contestants on Reality TV Shows, it's really annoying because how can you have a proper discussion with some of these people if they're just gonna pick based off gender mainly? It's just as bad as liking someone just because you fancy them, or they're from the same place as you.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Perez still has a fanbase despite being male though I don't doubt that some people would receive him better if he were female, but ultimately he's given people a **** ton of ammunition for people to dislike him, especially when you don't just consider actions in the house but outside of the house as well.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Don't forget Chloe in the Diary Room declaring how she was going to bully Perez on national TV, yet because she's pretty and a female she's liked more than Perez and Nadia on here who have not said anything like that.

..also I think that Perez, because he's so loud/irritating etc is not perceived so much as a victim and because he's OTT and dramatic, when he's upset/crying etc, it's not taken so seriously...but I think that Katie wanting others not to talk to him/entertain him is the closest to bullying in the house...also the irony of her saying that it shouldn't be up to the housemates/collectively to decide when a housemate is ejected..(like with Ken..)...and then saying that they all wanted Perez walking up the stairs and out of the door...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Perez still has a fanbase despite being male though I don't doubt that some people would receive him better if he were female, but ultimately he's given people a **** ton of ammunition for people to dislike him, especially when you don't just consider actions in the house but outside of the house as well.

It probably adds up to about 5% supporting him as their favourite, and about 2% of the Forum actually liking him in other positions.

Michelle however has been popular for what exactly? Being a nosey, boring, miserable bore, now if she was male with those characteristics and made the comments that she made tonight on top of those awful traits that I've listed above she would not be liked because if I remember correctly a lot of these people that like Michelle didn't like LukeA who shared some of those same stuff above as her, only he could actually be funny and chilled out on occasion.

[cfromhx02]

NO OFFENCE MEANT TO THE OP

Amusing that the title of the threat shouted it at us in Capital Letters.

Of course it is bullying,Katie and Cami have been repeating the same insults to her for days now.

It's obvious that they are targetting her as they've seen her as different from them and constant repetitive targetting of someone which obviously is going to hurt her

is bullying.

The definition of bullying has been explained before and Katie and Cami's behaviour has fitted every rule going about bullying

so no matter how anyone pretends it's not happening it is still official bullying.

[InOne]

The tactics Katie, Cami and Chloe used were definitely bullying. Even using a bit of good cop bad cop just to really **** her around But last nights was all our war

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

People are perfectly allowed to disagree. Calling her a bad/cruel parent crosses the line.

Read up on her treatment of her daughters and you will see that this woman has put herself before her children time and time again. That to me IS a bad parent.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Well chocolate bars and ice cream aren't really a healthy diet for the child so infact your mother was the one in the wrong.

As adults we try to eat healthy (well I do anyway) so why not look after your child the way you would look after your own body.

Alicia is doing nothing wrong her intentions are good.

Please read about her actions towards her youngest daughter about a year ago and tell me then that you think she is a good mother.

[mizzy25]

of course she isn't being bullied. shes playing the sweet and innocent victim, but no shes not being bullied.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Please read about her actions towards her youngest daughter about a year ago and tell me then that you think she is a good mother.

I have just read up on her and frankly I'm shocked. The woman has some serious issues, I'm not sure what is worse, her parenting skills or how she treats her dog.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I don't think she is being bullied either. I think she is well able to stand up for herself but is playing the victim game then she walked out on Cami and said she couldn't be listening to her SHRILL voice. She is well able to give as much as she gets but she knows people will feel sorry for her if she plays the upset little girl. I don't buy it. Cami is a bitch of the highest order but she said she was in her VT and at LEAST she is not pretending to be something she isn't. Alicia needs to either fight her corner or just ignore them by saying ;whatever whatever.

If Alicia was playing the sympathy card, that bar was set by Chloe with all her dramatics over Jeremy, yet you supported her. You can't have it both ways.

[Pincho Paxton]

She is definitely being bullied. Some years it is not so obvious that someone is being bullied, but this year it is very obvious.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Please read about her actions towards her youngest daughter about a year ago and tell me then that you think she is a good mother.

I can't find the post you quoted but i'm glad you did because i'd never of seen Daniels post if you didn't.

Daniel, my mother wasn't in the wrong and i'm perfectly healthy, so you can **** off, you stupid, pathetic arsehole. That's my last words on the matter.

[jaxie]

I have to disagree with the op. If people gang up on someone with spiteful language and say things like their family doesn't love them is bullying. Even though Alicia bites back it probably makes her feel very bad and like no one likes her. Just because someone can stand up for herself does not mean she isn't being bullied. Sometimes it takes a great deal of strength to go to a situation every day where a small group of people constantly criticise you and try to make you feel worthless.

I defy you not to feel bullied and miserable in a room full of people treating you that way.