[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Creggle

Who's done this? :/



No but dyslexia doesn't make somebody unintelligent. I haven't heard a comment in the house yet that has attacked something she can't help. Not that I agree with calling her thick but if the cap fits.

Who's said that people with Dyslexia are thick? It's just the reason why Alicia takes longer to process things is because of her Dyslexia, the reason why I can verify this is because I have a Cousin who's Dyslexic and he takes a while to process things, and any letters or numbers are all back to front and jumbled up, but his very intelligent and definitely runs rings around me and most of the family except for probably my other Cousin.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It's been known for a while, since around 2006 I believe when she first spoke about it. I will try find something on it.

She should have told them in the house when they were questioning her,then maybe they would have understood the situation better,some one gave me a link Ben ,thanks

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

You do know there are different types of dyslexia, some more severe than others so I fail to understand how you do not get annoyed at some of the things people say, even i you do hate her. I have a friend who really struggles with words and reading despite how hard they have tried.

Yeah I am aware, they sent me for tests to determine how bad my dyslexia was. I got called a ****** because I had to be treated differently but because I wanted to better myself I worked hard and I still struggle but I never gave up. To this day while on this forum I have to change the back light on my phone lower or the text is less harsh. I don't mind Alicia really but she fully admitted she learned the alphabet through her child...why did it take her so long? she could have put effort in years ago.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MB.

Completely off-topic but Mystic Mock?

Yes I can see into the future of how this Friday eviction will go.

1st Place - Calum Best
2nd Place - Alicia Douvall
3rd Place - Perez Hilton
4th Place - Nadia S

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

She should have told them in the house when they were questioning her,then maybe they would have understood the situation better,some one gave me a link Ben ,thanks

The thing is she probably already feels intimidated by them, why would she share something she may be uncomfortable with to the popel digging at her? Besides a few of them do know, since they know her from outside the show, they just seem hell bent on picking at her because she is not like them.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Yeah I am aware, they sent me for tests to determine how bad my dyslexia was. I got called a ****** because I had to be treated differently but because I wanted to better myself I worked hard and I still struggle but I never gave up. To this day while on this forum I have to change the back light on my phone lower or the text is less harsh. I don't mind Alicia really but she fully admitted she learned the alphabet through her child...why did it take her so long? she could have put effort in years ago.

Maybe because she was not diagnosed when she was younger and probably tried to cover it up as she has admitted she was embarrassed by it? I cannot answer that for her, that is just my opinion.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I have seen a few people who are incapable of understanding some of the problems Alicis has including her ability to recite the alphabet.

Maybe you should have a little read of this and educate yourselves.

that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

[Pink Pegasus]

Alicia just seems to need a bit of time to gather her thoughts sometimes before she responds, but I think she responds well when she does think about what she wants to say.

Even if the housemates do think she's thick or slow or whatever, I don't see the need for them to go on and on about it. I know people will probably say, oh well they are locked in the house and bored so of course they are going to talk about each other, but I don't see why they have to keep going on mocking something that clearly upsets her. She has said tried to speak up for herself and yet they continue on about it taking the piss. I don't think she has done anything so nasty to them to warrant this behaviour from them, it just seems so unnecessary and a bit cruel.

Thanks for the link about dyslexia btw, I will have a read over it.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

She does have dyslexia though

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

that would mean something if she had dyslexia, but she doesnt, dysmorphia, YES, dyslexia, NO

She has both.

Or should say had both because she is recovering from the body dysmorphia.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Maybe because she was not diagnosed when she was younger and probably tried to cover it up as she has admitted she was embarrassed by it? I cannot answer that for her, that is just my opinion.

Alicia seems to be like me in the sense of not liking the pressure of the Academic subjects, you're demanded to do well on all of them yet you end up not being brilliant at any of them, my Teachers kept telling me that I was under achieving and I'm not even Dyslexic, so god knows what pressure that people with Dyslexia get bestowal on them, well done to Amy Jade for not letting the pressure get to you, but a lot of people (Dyslexic or not) cannot handle the pressure.

[MTVN]

I won't get into dyslexia because I admit I'm not qualified to talk or speculate about it but I'm sorry, comments like "I'd want to die if I didn't have boobs" do just display a genuine ignorance and narcissism that is very worrying. It's like someone said on another thread her emotional immaturity is pretty staggering and a view like that can be quite damaging. I'd also be pretty concerned about her daughter's education that she seems quite set on home schooling her herself which really does not seem like adequate education. I know her daughter is only 3 right now but she seemed to be implying it was something she was going to be continuing with for a while, and she says she can't afford to send her to school when education is free to every child - even 3 year olds are eligible for free early education. The things she comes out with are just baffling in so many ways which extends beyond a learning difficulty

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf how many women would really want to go through life without boobs? I think you're being harsh there MTVN.

And I feel like I've learned more since I've left School than when I was actually in School, mainly due to the Internet though.

You never really leave School though I suppose as you always learn new things/have to learn new things.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf how many women would really want to go through life without boobs? I think you're being harsh there MTVN.

And I feel like I've learned more since I've left School than when I was actually in School, mainly due to the Internet though.

You never really leave School though I suppose as you always learn new things/have to learn new things.

You'd just think that someone with the body issues that she has had would be a bit more sympathetic about it all, rather than making out anyone who has doesn't have massive breasts is leading a life not worth living. Some people are naturally quite flat chested, some women are forced to have mastectomys, its crazy for her to claim that you need boobs to be fulfilled in life. It's no doubt the same thinking of hers which meant she encouraged her daughter to have a boob job as well when she didn't want one - that ain't right Mock.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm not saying that her attitude is right, I'm just saying that in most normal female interactions with each other and one of them got asked would you want to go through life without your boobs? What do you think their answer would be? It wouldn't be deliberately mean to the women that are flat chested or had a Mastectomy, it's just that it wouldn't be their ideal thing to have happen to them and it would be hard to adjust to I would imagine.

[Northern Monkey]

Meh.Who needs alphabets when horrible plastic tits make you money.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.

Good post Amy Jade and well done.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You'd just think that someone with the body issues that she has had would be a bit more sympathetic about it all, rather than making out anyone who has doesn't have massive breasts is leading a life not worth living. Some people are naturally quite flat chested, some women are forced to have mastectomys, its crazy for her to claim that you need boobs to be fulfilled in life. It's no doubt the same thinking of hers which meant she encouraged her daughter to have a boob job as well when she didn't want one - tat ain't right Mock.

I agree on that one MTVN. EIGHTEEN boob jobs was disgusting if I am honest. The girl has serious issues. And it looks like she is still not completely happy with them

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I agree on that one MTVN. EIGHTEEN boob jobs was disgusting if I am honest. The girl has serious issues. And it looks like she is still not completely happy with them

It's called body dysmorphia. Which she is recovering from, hence having all the implants from her face removed.

[Heaven = Winner]

I mean I feel bad for her and all, but she does still say some really stupid **** that just goes way, way beyond the dyslexia. Like the whole "I'd rather die than have no tits" comment :/

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I won't get into dyslexia because I admit I'm not qualified to talk or speculate about it but I'm sorry, comments like "I'd want to die if I didn't have boobs" do just display a genuine ignorance and narcissism that is very worrying. It's like someone said on another thread her emotional immaturity is pretty staggering and a view like that can be quite damaging. I'd also be pretty concerned about her daughter's education that she seems quite set on home schooling her herself which really does not seem like adequate education. I know her daughter is only 3 right now but she seemed to be implying it was something she was going to be continuing with for a while, and she says she can't afford to send her to school when education is free to every child - even 3 year olds are eligible for free early education. The things she comes out with are just baffling in so many ways which extends beyond a learning difficulty

I don't agree with the thick comments and calling her slow things like that, that said I agree with pretty much everything you have said in your post apart from the boobs comment because I think that could possibly be down to the body dysmorphia?

And the comments I have made about dyslexia in this thread and others are definitely NOT to defend everything Alicia has said and done in the house.

The comment about having to home school her daughter just did not make sense to me, how can you 'not afford' to send your child to school when schools are free and by the sounds of it the child would have a better education there?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

Good initial post Benjamin...thank you, but unfortunately its not going to shame those who said it. Fortunately some of us were brought up not to mock the afflicted and if we do have something to say, to at least educate ourselves first.

MTVN made a comment about her being narcissistic. Alicia is as far away from narcissism as the rest of us are from Mars. There clearly are narcissists in the house but Alicia isn't one of them.

[DemolitionRed]

Alicia had one thing that made her feel accepted (as far as she's concerned) and that's a nice body and a once pretty face. In desperation to keep that acceptance going she got body dysmorphia which in time reeked havoc on her looks. Her breasts are still an important asset for her, as they are for many women. Some women with breast cancer have to go through counselling because, as crazy as this may sound, for many women, losing breast tissue is worse than the cancer itself.

[LeatherTrumpet]

her "boobs" are disgusting

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't agree with the thick comments and calling her slow things like that, that said I agree with pretty much everything you have said in your post apart from the boobs comment because I think that could possibly be down to the body dysmorphia?

And the comments I have made about dyslexia in this thread and others are definitely NOT to defend everything Alicia has said and done in the house.

The comment about having to home school her daughter just did not make sense to me, how can you 'not afford' to send your child to school when schools are free and by the sounds of it the child would have a better education there?

It might be but she's been in rehab 3/4 times(?), she's realised how destructive her plastic surgery addiction was, she's had most of it out now and she says she's happy with herself. Crazy to have had all those experiences and still come out with comments like that

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Good initial post Benjamin...thank you, but unfortunately its not going to shame those who said it. Fortunately some of us were brought up not to mock the afflicted and if we do have something to say, to at least educate ourselves first.

MTVN made a comment about her being narcissistic. Alicia is as far away from narcissism as the rest of us are from Mars. There clearly are narcissists in the house but Alicia isn't one of them.

Why not? Narcissism is just an obsession with your own image and vanity, I'm guessing you would say she isn't narcissistic because she's quite mentally fragile and not that confident in herself but that doesn't preclude narcissism