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Old 27-01-2015, 03:06 PM #1
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Default Should the government save drug mule Granny?

She's weeks away from death apparently...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-sentence.html
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They should try, the death penalty is wrong especially for something like this so any life that can be saved should be imo
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They should try, the death penalty is wrong especially for something like this so any life that can be saved should be imo

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No one travelling to Bali is in any doubt about their drug laws and the penalties that go along with those laws. And if you don't know about their drug laws, you've no business travelling anywhere on your own.

Also, the government will not help you if you break the law abroad. The British Embassy will help if your passport is stolen or other emergency, but if you break the law the most they will do is inform your family and contact an English speaking lawyer.

I have no sympathy for this woman.

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No one travelling to Bali is in any doubt about their drug laws and the penalties that go along with those laws. And if you don't know about their drug laws, you've no business travelling anywhere on your own.

Also, the government will not help you if you break the law abroad. The British Embassy will help if your passport is stolen or other emergency, but if you break the law the most they will do is inform your family and contact an English speaking lawyer.

I have no sympathy for this woman.
She's always claimed she was forced into it by a drug syndicate hasn't she? Hard to prove on her side I guess. She's pretty much on her own there if the government aren't funding her appeals now.
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She's always claimed she was forced into it by a drug syndicate hasn't she? Hard to prove on her side I guess. She's pretty much on her own there if the government aren't funding her appeals now.
If that's true, she should have contacted the British Embassy and told them she's being coerced into carrying drugs into Bali. I would... no way would I carry any kind of drug in Bali. Saying she was forced to do it after the event doesn't help her case. I guess if she'd got away with it she'd have been very happy to spend her ill-gotten gains.
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Hmmm, she lived in the same town as my sister at one time,we have had plenty of coverage.

I have qualms about the rest of the gang getting off so lightly when she has to pay with her lfe.
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In what way was she "forced"?

The story's quite vague tbh.

A harsh punishment that I feel they should step in to avoid but I can't think of how she was forced into doing it without at any point having the opportunity to get help.

If she agreed to do it in return for a wad of cash then she wasn't forced.

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The death penalty is barbaric and always wrong and we should oppose and fight it at any opportunity so yes.

And the fact she was allegedly (although I don't think it matters regardless) forced into it makes it worse.
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In what way was she "forced"?

The story's quite vague tbh.

A harsh punishment that I feel they should step in to avoid but I can't think of how she was forced into doing it without at any point having the opportunity to get help.
I don't know much about that bit. I just heard that's what she's always said when I was listening to a discussion about it on the radio last night.
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I've posted on this subject before, this woman has been caught and is clearly guilty however I think given her age and circumstances that the British govt need to make every effort to have the death penalty removed.

How long has she been in prison now...





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I think they need to try and help her get her sentence reduced to a custodial one like the organisers of this syndicate.Death penalty is too harsh for drug trafficking.Specially as the others involved who may well have threatened her family only got prison sentences.
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In what way was she "forced"?

The story's quite vague tbh.

A harsh punishment that I feel they should step in to avoid but I can't think of how she was forced into doing it without at any point having the opportunity to get help.

If she agreed to do it in return for a wad of cash then she wasn't forced.

It says in the article that she was forced because her son's lives were being threatened.

It also says she was a working woman (a legal secretary) with no previous criminal convictions.
The other members only got jail sentences.

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Former legal secretary Sandiford, who has no previous criminal convictions, was caught smuggling cocaine worth £1.6 million from Thailand to Bali in 2012. Her sentence was upheld on appeal. She claims she was forced to act as a drugs mule by a syndicate who threatened the lives of her sons in England.
The other suspected syndicate members – Julian Ponder, 45, Paul Beales, 41, and Rachel Dougall, 41 – were sentenced to six years, four years and one year respectively.



Death sentence seems too harsh imo. Probably not much that can be done about it now though, considering that is their laws in that country. Why was she the only member of gang sentenced to death though?
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