[Tanser_Man]

... the death penalty to improve our society?

Discuss

Now with Britain turning into a haven for criminals and crime, would it be a good thing to reintroduce the death penalty?

I think we should bring the death penalty back in this country immediately, before it’s too late! We're already seeing the youth of today resorting to crime as if it’s a commodity in life, using an ASBO as an achievement, getting pleasure from other people’s misery. Surely you wouldn't want your kids growing up in a lawless society like this?

Having a death sentence would put the gitters up these offenders and make them think twice about breaking the law.

I think it's sad that in this day and age people are too scared to walk down there roads at night, in a country which is supposed to be free from tyranny and oppression. We can get rid of evil dictators but we can’t stop the very people on our doorsteps? Surely we have our priorities wrong?

If you’re in favor, what sort of death sentence would you impose?

Hanging
Lethal Injection
Firing Squad
Electrocution

If not, why should we not and what alternatives do we have?

Surely it would be cheaper to get rid of these vile people then to let them live the polished lives they do now?

There are so many questions and answers I could bring forward but I’d be here all night making this thread, so at least I have got the ball rolling!

[Chrizzle]

Definately no.

I completely disagree with it.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Definately no.

I completely disagree with it.

Why do you disagree?

[Chrizzle]

I'm not sure.

I just think its wrong.
I don't think killing anyone, is the answer!

[Lauren]

I'm all for it.

With jails being crowded up, there is a lot of serious offenders being freed too early and therefore more crimes being committed.
I'm not a complete cold-hearted gal though - I think it should be by lethal injection. (Although I'm tempted to say they should be killed in the same way they killed the victim).

[Pipergun]

Wooah.. I have some pretty strong views on this!

No.. definitely not. I don't believe in an eye for an eye.

Criminals, especially murderers worthy of the death penalty should have to live a life of torment, contemplating what possessed them to do what they did. Living with themselves must be one of the hardest things to do, so make them do it.

Death is too easy for those sort of criminals, it's an easy way out. They deserve a life of suffering for the happy, healthy lives that they've taken away and the families and family legacies that they have forever tainted.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
I'm not sure.

I just think its wrong.
I don't think killing anyone, is the answer!

I think if the crime justifys death, it should be a possibility.

If someone kills someone, in my eyes they shouldn't have the luxury of a breath nevermind a posh cell for the rest of there lives. What about the poor victim? Do they get the choice of whether they get to live or die?

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by LaurenFah
(Although I'm tempted to say they should be killed in the same way they killed the victim).

Tempted!?

That's exactly the way i would personally want it done, at least then they'd feel the pain and suffering (if any) that was caused to the victim.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man

Tempted!?

That's exactly the way i would personally want it done, at least then they'd feel the pain and suffering (if any) that was caused to the victim.

Ooh go on then. I'll treat myself to a bad thought.
Haha.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Pipergun
Death is too easy for those sort of criminals, it's an easy way out. They deserve a life of suffering for the happy, healthy lives that they've taken away and the families and family legacies that they have forever tainted.

But the thing is - a lot of them don't live a life of suffering. Sociopaths don't even recognise they have done anything wrong. They live in a cushy cell, with Sky TV, internet access etc.

Or they get let free cos there's so many of the scumbags that the sentencing is becoming weak.

Rid the world of them, I say.,

[Chrizzle]

I always say, let them suffer.
Once they are dead, its over. Why would we want that to happen?

Lock them away with a piece of bread everyday, and a glass of water!
A tiny bit of sunlight. yes its torture, but its punishment.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Lock them away with a piece of bread everyday, and a glass of water!
A tiny bit of sunlight. yes its torture, but its punishment.

We don't have enough space in the world to do that. Thats why a lot of murderers/paedos/rapists are being freed early.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by Pipergun
Wooah.. I have some pretty strong views on this!

No.. definitely not. I don't believe in an eye for an eye.

Criminals, especially murderers worthy of the death penalty should have to live a life of torment, contemplating what possessed them to do what they did. Living with themselves must be one of the hardest things to do, so make them do it.

Death is too easy for those sort of criminals, it's an easy way out. They deserve a life of suffering for the happy, healthy lives that they've taken away and the families and family legacies that they have forever tainted.

For me, the ends justify the means, at least when it is a guilty party who is punished.

Fundamentally it should be down to the victim/s whether the person lives or dies for there offence. Death should be a plausable option because after all, the offender had the choice in the first place.

[sol]

I'm not sure really, it may save the problem with crime or it may not but for now I don't think it's necessary.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by LaurenFah

We don't have enough space in the world to do that. Thats why a lot of murderers/paedos/rapists are being freed early.

Not only that but murderers/rapists can plead insanity/exceptional circumstances and they get sent to loony hospitals and within a few years they can be released. My mom works at a looney hospital and these people are allowed to go on day trips.... walk about the ground (which happens to be joined to social club and various kids facilities) and even letting them out to roam the streets.

How is that good for society?

[Lauren]

Because of the complex law system there's a load of loopholes, and like you mention - one of them being the insanity plea.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by andybigbro
Absolutely No!

Why are you opposed then? your reasons?

[Corkie]

Like abortion, it is a debated topic. The main problem with the death penalty was the result of executing many innocents, for example Joe Hill who was executed but later was proven innocent.

I personally think that it shouldn’t be allowed for this reason. I know it does make the law seem to be more severe, but put to death isn’t the answer in my opinion. I think it is an inhumane thing to do, and we should follow the commandment “thou shall not kill.” I know a lot of the people up for execution are there for that reason… but does that it make us any better?

[xGemmax]

I think they should. There are too many scumbags free to walk the streets. A lot of those people dont deserve to live

[Lauren]

Originally posted by corkie
Like abortion, it is a debated topic. The main problem with the death penalty was the result of executing many innocents, for example Joe Hill who was executed but later was proven innocent.

I personally think that it shouldn’t be allowed for this reason. I know it does make the law seem to be more severe, but put to death isn’t the answer in my opinion. I think it is an inhumane thing to do, and we should follow the commandment “thou shall not kill.” I know a lot of the people up for execution are there for that reason… but does that it make us any better?

With all due respect, Joe Hill happened a LONG time ago. Think of the advances in forensic science since then. It is very rare that someone is convicted of a murder without forensic evidence.

[Corkie]

Originally posted by LaurenFah

With all due respect, Joe Hill happened a LONG time ago. Think of the advances in forensic science since then. It is very rare that someone is convicted of a murder without forensic evidence.

I know there are a lot of forensic science advantages but I still think they could make a fatal mistake (some how, I’m not an expert on forensic science).... I also think that if they did bring back the death penalty then it would cause havoc….. Riots, marches the government would be in turmoil

[Lauren]

Corkie - it's rare these days that anyone is convicted WITHOUT forensic evidence that links them to the scene of the crime etc.
And I don't think it would cause much riots, since a study showed that about 80% of the British Public want the death penalty re-established.

[Corkie]

Originally posted by LaurenFah
Corkie - it's rare these days that anyone is convicted WITHOUT forensic evidence that links them to the scene of the crime etc.
And I don't think it would cause much riots, since a study showed that about 80% of the British Public want the death penalty re-established.

Lol there was me trying to be intelligent..... Eh well..... I still think that the death penalty should not be allowed....

[stoney12]

In cases where it is proven that the murderer is definatley guilty as in Ian Huntley , the yorkshire ripper and many other scumbags then why not have the death penalty as both a fitting punishment and a possible deterent.

Why pay to keep them alive,it seems the only just punishment in my 'umble opinion.

I have swapped and changed opinion on this over the years as it is a radical punishment ,but it is the only real penalty for the people who commit these terrible,life shattering(not just for the victim)crimes.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by stoney12
In cases where it is proven that the murderer is definatley guilty as in Ian Huntley , the yorkshire ripper and many other scumbags then why not have the death penalty as both a fitting punishment and a possible deterent.

Why pay to keep them alive,it seems the only just punishment in my 'umble opinion.

I have swapped and changed opinion on this over the years as it is a radical punishment ,but it is the only real penalty for the people who commit these terrible,life shattering(not just for the victim)crimes.

Amen to that!

Spot on!