[LeatherTrumpet]

Do you think?

and why?

[Niamh.]

Yes because I am a human and value my species above others. If I didn't I'd be a vegetarian

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes because I am a human and value my species above others. If I didn't I'd be a vegetarian

This.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes because I am a human and value my species above others. If I didn't I'd be a vegetarian

But its only humans that came up with species and categories so it rather devalues that stance?

We are all related and just variations of the adaptation to life

[MTVN]

Immeasurably so

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Immeasurably so

pourquoi?

[Lostie!]

No, not to me. If I woke up tomorrow and found that all animal life had been rendered extinct, the world would be a much bleaker place for me because I love animals.

When someone says that they value human life more than that of animals, it's quite a general statement that suggests to me that any human is worth more than any animal simply because they happen to be human, regardless of what sort of person they are.

That said, I'm not one of those who has a huge issue with meat eaters, I wasn't always a vegetarian myself. I do, however, have a massive problem with people who kill animals for fun, and I'll never apologise for that.

[arista]

Yes humans are above aniimals
in this hard life

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

No, not to me. If I woke up tomorrow and found that all animal life had been rendered extinct, the world would be a much bleaker place for me because I love animals.

When someone says that they value human life more than that of animals, it's quite a general statement that suggests to me that any human is worth more than any animal simply because they happen to be human, regardless of what sort of person they are.

That said, I'm not one of those who has a huge issue with meat eaters, I wasn't always a vegetarian myself. I do, however, have a massive problem with people who kill animals for fun, and I'll never apologise for that.

This - exactly.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

But its only humans that came up with species and categories so it rather devalues that stance?

We are all related and just variations of the adaptation to life

not really, humans may have come up with the name for humans but we are our own group, like dogs are etc etc

I love my dog and my cat but I would never put their lives above a humans (unless it was a serial killer or rapist or something lol)

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

No, not to me. If I woke up tomorrow and found that all animal life had been rendered extinct, the world would be a much bleaker place for me because I love animals.

When someone says that they value human life more than that of animals, it's quite a general statement that suggests to me that any human is worth more than any animal simply because they happen to be human, regardless of what sort of person they are.

That said, I'm not one of those who has a huge issue with meat eaters, I wasn't always a vegetarian myself. I do, however, have a massive problem with people who kill animals for fun, and I'll never apologise for that.

This^ I prefer animals to some people.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

pourquoi?

Because compared to animals humans are beings of immense abilities when it comes to reasoning, empathy, interaction etc. Yes I know some are bad, humans have ****ed up a lot etc etc but let's not act like what humans are capable of, and what humans have achieved, does not set us far apart from the rest of the animal world

[LeatherTrumpet]

Dragonflies have been on earth 300 million years and are ultra evolved lifespecies

Humans perhaps 5 million and are still killing each other like the low evolved species we are

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Dragonflies have been on earth 300 million years and are ultra evolved lifespecies

Humans perhaps 5 million and are still killing each other like the low evolved species we are

and other animals never kill each other?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Dragonflies have been on earth 300 million years and are ultra evolved lifespecies

Humans perhaps 5 million and are still killing each other like the low evolved species we are

And aren't we the only species who kill for 'fun' and 'sport'?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

And aren't we the only species who kill for 'fun' and 'sport'?

You never met my cat ..........

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

and other animals never kill each other?

only to survive

not because they cannot get laid and believe in invisible gods they learned about online

[MTVN]

Loads of animals kill for sport

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

only to survive

not because they cannot get laid and believe in invisible gods they learned about online

animals kill eachother over who's the alpha male or who gets to shag the female etc etc or they kill the offspring of former alphas etc etc that's quite barbaric

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you think?

and why?

You are truly one sly old dog LT.

I'm referring to the fact that you have posted - probably - the most appealing photo of a little puppy, with a photo of a Muslim child posing with a toy gun.

Further; the puppy is alone and caged and obviously wanting to be free - which further evokes our sympathy - while the child is free, not alone and the bars are in the background.

Talk about subliminal conditioning?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You never met my cat ..........

cats are evil

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Loads of animals kill for sport

I wasn't asking a rhetorical question, I suspected that we were, but did not know. I still don't, so maybe you can enlighten me?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

cats are evil

also, my dog was nearly killed by 3 dogs from up the road, they weren't looking to eat her as far as I can tell.......

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You never met my cat ..........

I love cats. They are so much fun and are very smart. I miss mine.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

also, my dog was nearly killed by 3 dogs from up the road, they weren't looking to eat her as far as I can tell.......

no but they were protecting their patch most likely. Its not the dogs fault we have domesticated them as their evolution is yet to catch up


Also its just a danger of living on a rough council Cork estate, ask Josy she will agree