[arista]

Toby Young on QT tonight so right.
At least he doing one.

Once the DUP have done their BBC Fecking Legal Action.

[the truth]

theyre over rated but if Cameron doesn't want them then I say lets have them

[arista]

The PM is having one, only

Once the the Mother Fecking BLOATED BBC say yes

[Kizzy]

You're getting very sweary lately, there's no need.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You're getting very sweary lately, there's no need.

I am Sorry
but I get Very Angry and all this Debate about Debates


We have one 90 mins in 1080i with 7 or 8.

Ed can Sweat first

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

I am Sorry
but I get Very Angry and all this Debate about Debates


We have one 90 mins in 1080i with 7 or 8.

Ed can Sweat first

There's only one person seemingly sweating and frightened of doing these debates and it certainly is not Ed Miliband, in fact unlike the one that is the real coward and crybaby,namely David Cameron,Ed Miliband is likely raring to go in to them.

Also there would not have been any need for debate as to the debates if David Cameron had done what all the other leaders have and accepted things as they were set out.
He along with all leaders are the ones that have to give an account of themselves to the voters, not themselves dictate how they do so.
Just get on and do it.

Cameron wanted these debates in 2010, during the election campaign,he got them, he expected Gordon Brown,the then PM,to accept all that.
Now he wants to take his ball away and only play if everyone else follows his rules.
He looks completely ridiculous and cowardly pathetic.

I am stunned his party are not forcing him to do them all,then again they know he failed miserably last time as to what was expected he'd achieve,so they too likely see him as still that loser, and a pretty bad one too.

[arista]

The 4 Broadcasters have thanked the PM for his Single Debate




2 April ITV1HD with the 7 (may also go out on Sky and BBC)

16 April BBC1HD same with the 7 and if no PM someone else

30 April SkyNewsHD/Ch4NewsHD with 2 (thats the date the PM has refused)

Ref: SkyNewsHD, BBCNewsHD

[joeysteele]

Well at least they are all going ahead with or without him and if he is not in some of them, then he is going to look absolutely pathetic.
I hope he has just set out on the path of committing political suicide for him and his party with his nonsense over this.

His absence from any of the debates will be massively obvious and I hope loses him tons of votes,since he chooses to deny the voters greater scrutiny of his policies and his explanations of same too.

I am really glad he has not got his own way on these debates, I feel pretty sure, he thought and maybe was advised too, that him not taking part in all or some,would see the ones he refused to take part in cancelled.
I am over the moon, they are all going ahead still.

To the voters he will indeed look what he is doing, running scared.
They will be entitled to develop strong suspicions as to his and his party's intentions as to what they really want to do were he to win the May election.

Hopefully this will now lose him even more votes than the already lost votes that he got in the 2010 election, according to all the current polling.

[arista]

[arista]

I am happy with

The PM doing one on ITV1HD and will also go out on Sky and bbc news

[joeysteele]

I am far from impressed with him only doing one,it doesn't inspire any confidence as to him and his policies if he as PM is avoiding debating same with all other relevant leaders of parties abnswering to a 'public' and therefore the 'voters' debates.

If this was Ed Miliband or Nick Clegg or Nigel Farage or Natalie bennett saying they wouldn't do any these debates,had they been invited to too, then the same suspicion and criticism from me would be directed at any of them too.

He looks what he is a coward,he can only really fight when he has his henchmen behind him to back him up.
He has made the office of Prime Minister a joke in my view.

[Nedusa]

I look forward to the 3rd debate with Miliband v Cameron , in sure Mr Miliband can win that one as the PM won't be there .

So expect Mr Miliband to have an empty podium next to him. Or will Dave turn up at the last minute.

Can't wait to see this one on one debate

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I look forward to the 3rd debate with Miliband v Cameron , in sure Mr Miliband can win that one as the PM won't be there .

So expect Mr Miliband to have an empty podium next to him. Or will Dave turn up at the last minute.

Can't wait to see this one on one debate

maybe millions will not bother
watching Paxman grill one MP

The Debates in 2010 did not change voters
but got lads like Joey confused thinking LibDems were angels

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

maybe millions will not bother
watching Paxman grill one MP

The Debates in 2010 did not change voters
but got lads like Joey confused thinking LibDems were angels

I think they did change some voters minds actually.
Nick Clegg came out the best of them all in the debates and won over a good number of people who weren't even sure if they would even vote.
Yes I trusted Nick Clegg, for my sins, never, ever again.

For Gordon Brown, he came over as already defeated in one of them,when he said, ...''if things stay as they are now, this man,David Cameron, will be prime Minister supported by this man,Nick Clegg''....

However for David Cameron,having already blown a well over 10 point lead over Labour, he came across rather poor too.
I really believe the leaders debates were in part instrumental in him not getting an overall majority,since he sounded really inexperienced alongside Nick Clegg,Cameron came across as shifty as to immigration and the NHS particularly .

It will now be really ironic, if having taken part in the debates in 2010, he lost the trust of the voters to give him an overall majority, and now here in 2015, by 'not' taking part in them all, he puts himself firmly into a losing position again as to that.

I think, even moreso with all the new leaders of parties included in 2 debates,that indeed perhaps a great many more voters will make their minds up after watching them this time.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think they did change some voters minds actually.
Nick Clegg came out the best of them all in the debates and won over a good number of people who weren't even sure if they would even vote.
Yes I trusted Nick Clegg, for my sins, never, ever again.

For Gordon Brown, he came over as already defeated in one of them,when he said, ...''if things stay as they are now, this man,David Cameron, will be prime Minister supported by this man,Nick Clegg''....

However for David Cameron,having already blown a well over 10 point lead over Labour, he came across rather poor too.
I really believe the leaders debates were in part instrumental in him not getting an overall majority,since he sounded really inexperienced alongside Nick Clegg,Cameron came across as shifty as to immigration and the NHS particularly .

It will now be really ironic, if having taken part in the debates in 2010, he lost the trust of the voters to give him an overall majority, and now here in 2015, by 'not' taking part in them all, he puts himself firmly into a losing position again as to that.

I think, even moreso with all the new leaders of parties included in 2 debates,that indeed perhaps a great many more voters will make their minds up after watching them this time.

The numbers do not stack up
Do you get time to watch Political news?


What shocks me is Single Mothers - Not going to Vote
its not their thing.

I would make it Law that everyone votes
and for Russell Brand
there is box for him to Tick
"None of the Above"

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

The numbers do not stack up
Do you get time to watch Political news?


What shocks me is Single Mothers - Not going to Vote
its not their thing.

I would make it Law that everyone votes
and for Russell Brand
there is box for him to Tick
"None of the Above"

Not sure I get your point there really, the leaders debates will be covered extensively on all channels news and all other election related programmes.

It will have a knock on effect from the leaders debates through all that programming too.

We have the right to vote or not to use that vote in the UK, I would prefer if people did use their votes, it surprises me that there cannot,( now with so many different candidates on ballot papers), at elast be one of them that it is felt could be voted for.

I don't agree at all with compulsory voting, I also cannot see any party wanting to be the one that ever brought that in either.

I am not surprised that people are turned off by politics and politicians however, the weekly PMQs farce is the worst advertisement for any form of politics.
As is the personal attacks and more often than not,infantile personalised mudslinging done by 'so called' 'senior' politicians.
I also think too, interviewers turn viewers off by too much aggressive interviewing.

People just want to know what the parties stand for, what they would do with power and have that scrutinised but informatively,not from the programme makers or interviewers own personal and often biased agendas.

[arista]

"Not sure I get your point there really, the leaders debates will be covered extensively on all channels news "

On the BBC Daily Politics
they did the Numbers of voters before the TV debates and After

I said apart from people like you
it changed nothing

22million (2010) watched it, loads then did Not Vote

[arista]

I mean millions will have to have Subtitles
as they can not stand Ed's Voice

[arista]

"I don't agree at all with compulsory voting,"


Fecking TYPICAL of you

So long as you can tick "none of the above"



Its Bloody fine

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

"I don't agree at all with compulsory voting,"


Fecking TYPICAL of you

So long as you can tick "none of the above"



Its Bloody fine

No... this is typical of you!

We are a democracy... when you start making things compulsory it ceases to BE a democracy?.... Get it?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No... this is typical of you!

We are a democracy... when you start making things compulsory it ceases to BE a democracy?.... Get it?

You Do Not Get IT


anyone who does not want to vote goes in ticks
none of the above

Thats is Democracy

Like Down Under

[Kizzy]

Ed Miliband has told broadcasters he will take part in all three televised debates ahead of the election - as he accused David Cameron of "chickening out".

In a speech to the Scottish Labour conference, the party leader said the Prime Minister was "running scared" after only agreeing to appear in one of three of the debates.

Mr Miliband told delegates: "You can refuse to face the public, but you can’t deny your record.

"You can try to chicken out of the debates, but don’t ever again claim to provide strong leadership for your country."

Mr Miliband said "with or without Mr Cameron" he will be at the debates.

http://news.sky.com/story/1440557/mi...ver-tv-debates

[arista]

Yes Kizzy
we all know that
Nothing new.

The PM is sticking to his word
just doing 1

[Kizzy]

I don't think he's bothered tbh.... he's installed conservative peers and police, he's sold of anything and everything he could to his friends and backers to ensure the country is conservative run whoever is in power.

[smudgie]

Can't be doing with the debates.
Enough of the debating goes on already.
The candidates just stand up and spout their lies, I much prefer to see what my local MP is doing for the area, the actions say much more than words.
He will be getting my vote as he has earned his wages.