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Max "Plantar's Wart" Dawson really is a living example as to why self-insistent superfans suck.
ugh ikr. i've said this a million times but i'd definitely rather watch a recruit stumble through the game than have to listen to a superfan insist on how amazing they are because they read the survivor wiki trivia pages (pwnt @ max btw)
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I agree with Raph although I like superfans and recruits about equally. It depends on how good (and not annoying) of a superfan they are or how entertaining (and not annoying) of a recruit they are.

The show needs a good combination of both IMO.
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ugh ikr. i've said this a million times but i'd definitely rather watch a recruit stumble through the game than have to listen to a superfan insist on how amazing they are because they read the survivor wiki trivia pages (pwnt @ max btw)
I'm dreading the day BB Canada becomes super meta and self-referential and we have to listen to self-professed superfans make, like, wink-wink nudge-nudge Jon Pardy references or something, just because they constantly feel the need to prove that they memorize trivialities of the show.
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Lol Raph do you realise Callum and Sam were BB14 recruits...

Disliking Sindy for being a recruit is silly. It's like discriminating against someone for their age/gender/race etc
No it's not. Discriminating on the grounds of age/gender/race and not liking the idea of housemates being recruits are massively different.

I don't really see it as a valid reason to dislike someone (but disliking the notion of recuits, sure), but I don't agree with that analogy.
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savvy superfans like Peter Brown and Arlie Shaban? k.
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but Hayden I want real people and real fans on this show
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It's different for me for BBUK/Canada cause it's more of a strategic game in Canada so I prefer the gameplayers who are super savvy about the game. That, and Callum actually wasn't a recruit, so yeah haha.
Fair enough but being a recruit doesn't automatically make them any less worthy than the others at the end of the day they will all walk in and leave through the same door.

And you are kidding yourself if you think anyone from BB14 wasn't recruited
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No it's not. Discriminating on the grounds of age/gender/race and not liking the idea of housemates being recruits are massively different.

I don't really see it as a valid reason to dislike someone (but disliking the notion of recuits, sure), but I don't agree with that analogy.
You're disliking some for their background and who they are - how is that not discriminating? It's definitely prejudice, that's for sure.
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Fair enough but being a recruit doesn't automatically make them any less worthy than the others at the end of the day they will all walk in and leave through the same door.

And you are kidding yourself if you think anyone from BB14 wasn't recruited
Sophie, the twins are 100% not recruits
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You're disliking some for their background and who they are - how is that not discriminating? It's definitely prejudice, that's for sure.
Becoming a fan of the show is different from being born a certain race, gender, nationality. It's your interests not your background.
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I love your sig about fans v superfans Luke Neda knows what she's talking about!
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Becoming a fan of the show is different from being born a certain race, gender, nationality. It's your interests not your background.
There's a diference between a "fan" and a "super fan" -Neda

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@ the thought of Peter being on the sideshow again
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yes how dare every person who walks into the BB house not waste precious hours watching the show, watching feeds, etc. Props to them for actually having a life?
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Also, it's the beginning of the show so this is all we know about the houseguests -- last season by the end Kenny and Rachelle were my favorites, both who were recruits but on a first impressions basis of course im gonna prefer a superfan as I can relate more to them, in general.
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I love your sig about fans v superfans Luke Neda knows what she's talking about!
I saw her tweet today about it, she is a super fan and she was the best player of that season imo, when will recruits
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I saw her tweet today about it, she is a super fan and she was the best player of that season imo, when will recruits
Preach it Luke!!
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You're disliking some for their background and who they are - how is that not discriminating? It's definitely prejudice, that's for sure.
Not liking recruits on reality shows is of course a prejudice against recruits (and as I said, I don't see it as a valid reason to dislike someone), but that's not even slightly similar to being racist, sexist or ageist.
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Becoming a fan of the show is different from being born a certain race, gender, nationality. It's your interests not your background.
By background, I mean how they all got on the show.

Quite frankly you are judging someone unfairly just because they don't have the same interests as you or other 'super fans'.

I suppose I should hate anyone on this forum who doesn't like BB or no longer watches cause, hey, why'd they join the forum if it has big brother in the title?
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super fans are most likely to win too
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By background, I mean how they all got on the show.

Quite frankly you are judging someone unfairly just because they don't have the same interests as you or other 'super fans'.

I suppose I should hate anyone on this forum who doesn't like BB or no longer watches cause, hey, why'd they join the forum if it has big brother in the title?
Okay this is just silly now i'm sorry Hayden but I have no idea what you're talking about, I can relate to who I relate most to lol
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Most of the self-professed superfans really are nothing other than armchair critics who think they know everything, claim that when they get on the show they're going to lie and backstab and dupe everyone (because everyone is the hero of their own narrative) without realizing that everyone else is going to be doing the same as well, and then finally get on the show and get bounced in humiliating fashion. Just like Peter did, just like Arlie did, just like Max did on Survivor, etc. Priding yourself on your superfan status is just really pretentious and sets you up to fail.
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i'm dying @ luke's sig about fans and superfans being heralded as some profound message when really it's kinda vague and meaningless
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Most of the self-professed superfans really are nothing other than armchair critics who think they know everything, claim that when they get on the show they're going to lie and backstab and dupe everyone (because everyone is the hero of their own narrative) without realizing that everyone else is going to be doing the same as well, and then finally get on the show and get bounced in humiliating fashion. Just like Peter did, just like Arlie did, just like Max did on Survivor, etc. Priding yourself on your superfan status is just really pretentious and sets you up to fail.
Hence why Dan and Derrick probably played the most flawless games in their 2 winning seasons, but alright, enough with you
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Not liking recruits on reality shows is of course a prejudice against recruits (and as I said, I don't see it as a valid reason to dislike someone), but that's not even slightly similar to being racist, sexist or ageist.
Why not? They can't change who they are. Forcing someone to be interested in a reality show they've been asked to participate in is like forcing the nerdy girl in school to ditch the books and start watching 90210 just to fit in with the cool girls xoxo
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i'm dying @ luke's sig about fans and superfans being heralded as some profound message when really it's kinda vague and meaningless
i'm dying at you and troy just making fun of people all the time. You can be critical without being insulting
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