[Kizzy]

'In April 2012, the Government launched the Troubled Families Programme: a £448 million
scheme to incentivise local authorities and their partners to turn around the lives of 120,000
troubled families by May 2015. The current Programme works with families where children
are not attending school, young people are committing crime, families are involved in antisocial
behaviour and adults are out of work. The programme is making strong progress and,
as at the end of May 2014, had already turned around nearly 53,000 families.'

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/media/947...-Programme.pdf

https://thepoorsideoflife.wordpress....ton-jobcentre/



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[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'In April 2012, the Government launched the Troubled Families Programme: a £448 million
scheme to incentivise local authorities and their partners to turn around the lives of 120,000
troubled families by May 2015. The current Programme works with families where children
are not attending school, young people are committing crime, families are involved in antisocial
behaviour and adults are out of work. The programme is making strong progress and,
as at the end of May 2014, had already turned around nearly 53,000 families.'

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/media/947...-Programme.pdf

https://thepoorsideoflife.wordpress....ton-jobcentre/

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What point are you making here Kizzy? And this is NOT a confrontational question.

By posting the first link you seem to be applauding a government initiative and confirming its success, and by posting the other link you seem to be castigating another government initiative though both seem to be connected and have the same motivation.

Or am I being confused?

[Cherie]

The definition of "troubled families" is troubling Kirk have you read through the second link?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The definition of "troubled families" is troubling Kirk have you read through the second link?

I did Cherie - but only superficially.

I have just re-read it and I now see where Kizzy is coming from (though a tad of extra-link comment would have been helpful).

I was under the impression that this "£448 million pound 'initiative' was directly and indirectly helping these families, but I should have known better.

Like PFI and other blatant government schemes to divert public money away from those most deserving of aid into the pockets of their cronies (with nice manilla envelopes and golden handshakes along the way - and I mean ALL Governments) this is just more of the same.

Helping anyone is not the motive then, just helping themselves.

[Vicky.]

. They will have to undergo interventions, either themselves or a family member will have to attend a voluntary placement, undergone training to improve their skill levels and placements that will last for 13 consecutive weeks.

Ahh an excuse to put more people on workfare then

The idea sounded good, until I read the second link. Should have known it was a load of bollocks dressed up to look like help.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

What point are you making here Kizzy? And this is NOT a confrontational question.

By posting the first link you seem to be applauding a government initiative and confirming its success, and by posting the other link you seem to be castigating another government initiative though both seem to be connected and have the same motivation.

Or am I being confused?

Yes you're being confused, it's just drawing attention to the new government initiative to identify 'troubled families' and the questionable logic that surrounds what constitutes a 'troubled' family, how they are identified and the attachment of agencies is also worrying .
Note also how this has been kept very much on the down low?
Wouldn't have a £448 million scheme implemented nationwide been reported on extensively following trials, is this the method for saving the 12 billion...

Once identified £1000 is payable to the agency involved, and a further £800 once they are successfully off welfare, but what if they aren't after the mandatory 13 week work/training placement?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes you're being confused, it's just drawing attention to the new government initiative to identify 'troubled families' and the questionable logic that surrounds what constitutes a 'troubled' family, how they are identified and the attachment of agencies is also worrying .
Note also how this has been kept very much on the down low?
Wouldn't have a £448 million scheme implemented nationwide been reported on extensively following trials, is this the method for saving the 12 billion...

Once identified £1000 is payable to the agency involved, and a further £800 once they are successfully off welfare, but what if they aren't after the mandatory 13 week work/training placement?

Yes - I re-read the second link. Just another scam to divert public money into the hands of private companies and make it seem like the Government is doing something constructive to help the less well off.

Nothing will ever change I'm afraid.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes you're being confused, it's just drawing attention to the new government initiative to identify 'troubled families' and the questionable logic that surrounds what constitutes a 'troubled' family, how they are identified and the attachment of agencies is also worrying .
Note also how this has been kept very much on the down low?
Wouldn't have a £448 million scheme implemented nationwide been reported on extensively following trials, is this the method for saving the 12 billion...

Once identified £1000 is payable to the agency involved, and a further £800 once they are successfully off welfare, but what if they aren't after the mandatory 13 week work/training placement?

Sounds similar to the work program..just an excuse to siphon off money to private companies again, despite it being proven time and time again to not actually help anyone