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Twosugars · 30-03-2019, 11:32 AM

David Milliband was far more electable.
But the bigger tragedy was that Khan or somebody put Corbyn forward for a leader only out of pity.

lime · 30-03-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes arista.
However the indicative votes are to try to find a policy.

This agreement she has had voted on 3 times now is her policy.
Which has been roundly defeated 3 times too.

Big difference, in my book anyway.

I'm going to hazzard a guess your book does not include Irealnd .....Just corbyn.

arista · 30-03-2019, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Can we have a second Brexit ref?"

Theresa May: "NO! Undemocratic."

"Can Scotland have a second Indy ref?"

Theresa May: "NO! Unthinkable."

..

Theresa May: "So, we're gonna have a 4th run at this vote on my deal and..."

Yes but this time she will only enter it
with the right number of votes,
its not hard to work out.................................

They can count out MP Mark Francois
who stated even with a Shotgun in his mouth
he will not vote for her Treaty Deal.

arista · 30-03-2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

I’ll take chaos with Ed Miliband please!

But he could Never Win
as so many NON VOTERS
(folks that never voted in General Elections)
jumped at Dave's Referendum
To be PM

In Or Out
Shake It all about............................

And This

Toy Soldier · 30-03-2019, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Utter Bollocks
Paxman Destroyed him
Live on SkyNewsHD-Ch4HDnews joint broadcast

And This

David Milliband.

arista · 30-03-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

David Milliband.

arista · 30-03-2019, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

David Milliband.

Yes I made a mistake
so easy to forget David
now he works in NYC.

joeysteele · 30-03-2019, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lime

I'm going to hazzard a guess your book does not include Irealnd .....Just corbyn.

Every single Party in Parliament has voted 3 times against this agreement.
All of them,even the vast bulk of the now Independent MPs too.
Even still with 25 of Conservative MPs on board as well.

Nothing to do with Corbyn or Labour only.

Sticks · 30-03-2019, 03:46 PM

Labour opportunism to inflict a defeat on the government, no matter what the issue.

Don't forget, St Jeremy came in to the House of Commons first in 1983 when the manifesto pledge was for Labour was to take us out of Europe. Now in 2019 St Jeremy has marshalled his Praetorian Guard to ensure Labour votes for the UK to Leave with No Deal in a Hard Brexit

A No Deal Hard Brexit is what is due to happen on 12 April and we will all enter the new golden age of prosperity, just like that nice man Farage and Boris have promised

£350m a week for the NHS

Twosugars · 30-03-2019, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

I would

Northern Monkey · 30-03-2019, 03:47 PM

We could only dream of clumsy fecker Ed Milliband now.
If only we’d known the state Labour would be in now i’d vote for Ed in a heartbeat.

He could’nt even eat some pig without getting abuse for it but Cameron could literally abuse one and all was forgiven.

Cherie · 30-03-2019, 03:50 PM

Has anyone heard how the money saved if the UK no longer pays into the EU will be spent, I don't think its been mentioned since the day after the referendum, I am expecting a little windfall in my paypacket

Northern Monkey · 30-03-2019, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Has anyone heard how the money saved if the UK no longer pays into the EU will be spent, I don't think its been mentioned since the day after the referendum, I am expecting a little windfall in my paypacket

Well we have to give £39 large ones back to them if May’s surrender deal goes through next week.

Cherie · 30-03-2019, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

But he could Never Win
as so many NON VOTERS
(folks that never voted in General Elections)
jumped at Dave's Referendum
To be PM

In Or Out
Shake It all about............................

And This

why do politicians think anyone wants to see them gobbling their grub, next it will be pictures in the bath to show how normal they are

Sticks · 30-03-2019, 03:57 PM

Cameron was / is a coward, plain and simple

When John Major was plagued by the right wing, he stood up to them and even challenged them to run against him as part leader. Only John Redwood took up this opportunity and was soundly beaten by John Major

In the Maastrict Treaty ratification, to get it through John Major went nuclear and triggered a confidence vote along side it to force them into line.

John Major is so much maligned, but he was a better and nicer man than the last two conservative leaders. John even attacked the Cameron government in 2013/4 for elitism.

Dave on the other hand put the referendum pledge in the 2015 manifesto as a sop to the right wing, instead of standing up to them. When the folly of that decision came to fruition on 23 June 2016, instead of staying around to clean up his mess and manage the morass he had wrought on the country, he ran off leaving May to pick up the pieces.

What a coward !!!

John Major was a hero...

Northern Monkey · 30-03-2019, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

why do politicians think anyone wants to see them gobbling their grub, next it will be pictures in the bath to show how normal they are

‘Look everyone i’m human,I eat!’

‘Now who wants to watch me take a sh1t?’

Cherie · 30-03-2019, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks

Cameron was / is a coward, plain and simple

When John Major was plagued by the right wing, he stood up to them and even challenged them to run against him as part leader. Only John Redwood took up this opportunity and was soundly beaten by John Major

In the Maastrict Treaty ratification, to get it through John Major went nuclear and triggered a confidence vote along side it to force them into line.

John Major is so much maligned, but he was a better and nicer man than the last two conservative leaders. John even attacked the Cameron government in 2013/4 for elitism.

Dave on the other hand put the referendum pledge in the 2015 manifesto as a sop to the right wing, instead of standing up to them. When the folly of that decision came to fruition on 23 June 2016, instead of staying around to clean up his mess and manage the morass he had wrought on the country, he ran off leaving May to pick up the pieces.

What a coward !!!

John Major was a hero...

I did like John Major so we can agree on that

Twosugars · 30-03-2019, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sticks

Cameron was / is a coward, plain and simple

When John Major was plagued by the right wing, he stood up to them and even challenged them to run against him as part leader. Only John Redwood took up this opportunity and was soundly beaten by John Major

In the Maastrict Treaty ratification, to get it through John Major went nuclear and triggered a confidence vote along side it to force them into line.

John Major is so much maligned, but he was a better and nicer man than the last two conservative leaders. John even attacked the Cameron government in 2013/4 for elitism.

Dave on the other hand put the referendum pledge in the 2015 manifesto as a sop to the right wing, instead of standing up to them. When the folly of that decision came to fruition on 23 June 2016, instead of staying around to clean up his mess and manage the morass he had wrought on the country, he ran off leaving May to pick up the pieces.

What a coward !!!

John Major was a hero...

Agree, Sticks. Major was a very decent PM and is a guy of principles.He is unfairly underrated.

arista · 31-03-2019, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

UK 'top of the queue' for post-Brexit trade deal.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-top-of...olton-11678765

Yes Unlike that Former President
that David Cameron dragged in.
And gave him a Script to to speak.
Pathetic move back in 2016.

arista · 31-03-2019, 09:32 AM

Farage and Campbell
both on LBC Live Radio.

bitontheslide · 31-03-2019, 10:19 AM

Speaking on Sky News, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry said under a Labour government it was "likely" that the UK would leave the European Union.

likely is not the same as will

arista · 31-03-2019, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Speaking on Sky News, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry said under a Labour government it was "likely" that the UK would leave the European Union.

likely is not the same as will

Yes I watched that,
Labour is Split like the Conservatives
Terrible mess