[GiRTh]

Nigel Farage: immigrants from India and Australia better than eastern Europeans

Nigel Farage has said he would prefer immigrants from India and Australia to eastern Europeans, despite previously claiming his party would not want to discriminate against new arrivals by nationality.

The Ukip leader indicated he would prefer immigration from countries he said had the most similar cultures to the UK as he was grilled about his approach to immigration during the latest BBC Leader interview broadcast on Wednesday evening.

Asked by presenter Evan Davis whether he would favour immigrants from some countries over others, he said: “I have to confess I do have a slight preference. I do think, naturally, that people from India and Australia are in some ways more likely to speak English, understand common law and have a connection with this country than some people that come perhaps from countries that haven’t fully recovered from being behind the iron curtain.”

In the past, Farage has always claimed to be the only party leader with a “non-discriminatory” policy on immigration as Ukip would not give preference to EU migrants over those from the rest of the world.

Last year, he told LBC: “I actually want us to have an immigration policy that is non-discriminatory, because at the moment we discriminate in favour of people from Poland, or Romania, or Bulgaria, regardless [of] who they are, and we discriminate against people from New Zealand … or from India, or Canada, or whatever else it may be. We’ve got our, I think, our priorities completely wrong here. And we should not be discriminating on grounds of nationality.”

The Ukip leader also suggested his party has sometimes used heightened rhetoric about immigration to get noticed. Asked about his desire to stop more immigrants with HIV and criminal records coming to the UK, he said such language was sometimes necessary “to wake people up”.

“To wake people up to the truth of what’s going on, you sometimes have to say things in a way to get noticed, of that there’s no question,” he said.

Farage claimed Ukip was now fighting this general election campaign without a negative tone and “no longer needs to make the negative arguments about the effect that immigration has had on primary school places, on healthcare provision, on wage compression”.

However, Farage has mentioned the impact of immigration on public services many times during the campaign, including stressing that it would be wrong to fund the treatment of immigrants with HIV when the country cannot afford drugs for an 80-year-old with breast cancer. He even brought up the issue of immigrants with life-threatening diseases unprompted during the first leaders’ debate.

He also criticised Davis’s questioning, accusing him of being a member of the “liberal metropolitan elite”.

Two more Farage interviews are being aired on Wednesday evening, on ITV and Channel 4, as Ukip gets more prominence from broadcasters since being designated a major party.

In a candid exchange with Channel 4 News, the Ukip leader revealed he made some mistakes at the beginning of the general election campaign. The politician has been under pressure as opinion polls suggest support for his party is sliding to below 14% and that he is facing a tight three-way battle to win the seat of South Thanet.

And Farage said that he had tried to do too much. “I started the campaign and think I made some mistakes,” he told Channel 4. “My desperation for Ukip to do well meant that I really packed the diary and the day in a way that frankly wasn’t very bright. I have now trimmed it back a bit. I’m being a bit more selective.”

Asked whether he had got a bit “wonky” at one point, Farage said: “I was. No, no. Hands up, I was. I had completely overdone it. I wasn’t getting it right. I feel a bit of the old vim and vigour back and I’m looking forward to the next fortnight.”

The Ukip leader strongly denied rumours about his ill-health at the party’s spring conference in Margate, Kent, accusing the Tories of spreading false claims about him and claiming to be “fit as a flea”.

However, since then, he published an autobiographical book, Purple Revolution, saying several health scares – including testicular cancer, a car crash and a light aircraft crash – have left him with the body of a 70-year-old.

David Cameron, meanwhile, has also been accused of looking like he is lacking enthusiasm during the campaign. The prime minister hit back at his critics on Wednesday by saying he has visited 26 places in less than a week.

Farage’s campaign has concentrated in a much smaller area than some of the other party leaders, as he tries to win his own target seat of South Thanet in Kent. He has pledged to stand down as leader if he does not become an MP.

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I missed that comment.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes girth you keep trying to make that point but its not working or helping your credibility here

I found it funny. He's supposed to be the man of the people that got debunked, the no go zones got debunked and I cant even remember half of the rest. I cannot deny I found it very humorous

[LeatherTrumpet]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Europeans.html

all the top comments make perfect sense

read them at your leisure..

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Europeans.html

all the top comments make perfect sense

read them at your leisure..

No comments on the Mail Online, especially those at the top, ever make sense

ban ha

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Europeans.html

all the top comments make perfect sense

read them at your leisure..

Comments at the bottom are claiming a stitch up and left wing bias. So predictable. I'd like to know why Farage didnt above it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I found it funny. He's supposed to be the man of the people that got debunked, the no go zones got debunked and I cant even remember half of the rest. I cannot deny I found it very humorous

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...tern-europeans

even most the guardian comments are positive

[LeatherTrumpet]

its a win guys

dont fight it

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...tern-europeans

even most the guardian comments are positive

Comments seemed quite mixed to me. Like this one

It was great watching Evan Davies circle Farage like a shark. Every trap Davies set, Farage blundered in with the finesse of a piano dropped from the 6th floor.

The first minutes were hilarious, with Farage trying to explain that his alma mater, Dulwich College, was some sort of orphanage for children of the working classes. Davies gave him a right slapping. What a greedy, expense-hungry, privileged toff Farage is.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Comments seemed quite mixed to me. Like this one

that is the typical prejudiced left wing bigoted view that politics could do without

shame on you

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is the typical prejudiced left wing bigoted view that politics could do without

shame on you

No understand

Gave up after 16 minutes of Nigel Farage's evasion - so paused the TV

"Shall I delete Nigel Farage?" said Mrs VSL.

If only it were that simple.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Evan

I now have a huge man crush on Evan. He's the guvnor.

I fecking knew you were suspect Girth.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is the typical prejudiced left wing bigoted view that politics could do without

shame on you

Don't get this thread edited FFS LT.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Your avatar pic does a good job showing how you must feel right about now.

Credit where it's due - This was funny.

[Kizzy]

I think this may be worth a look after all

[joeysteele]

I disagree with a lot that Nigel Farage says and appears to stand for because he and UKIP sometimes give the impression that they are all over the place as to policy.
Like the guy they have for the economics spokeman, Patrick O Flynn, I don't care for him at all.

This wasn't one of Farage's better performances in interviews but I do feel he was asked some rather daft questions and far too much time was spent on trying to elaborate on them rather than moving on to something else.

The dozens of seats bit was rather funny but tonight Nigel Farage looked like a man who is now realising his party is not now,in this election,going to blow things wide open at all.
It was telling that he said,one of the main things about this election will be how many seats UKIP end up in 2nd place in.

I think UKIP will be in 2nd place probably in near 100 seats,it is not however whether you come in 2nd place but how close you are to winning the seats that really matters.
He didn't even seem to have much confidence as to that as to coming close to winning seats now,including the one he is standing in himself too.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Credit where it's due - This was funny.

LOL he was so hurt he changed his avatar

[LeatherTrumpet]

I think the pathetic breastfeeding attempt at the end summed up what a dreadful job evan whatshisname did

dredging up an interview Farage did with Nick Ferrari in which he made it quite clear he had NO issue with breastfeeding and quite clear that Claridges if it had stated rules then its their business and if its not breaking the law etc

and yet, like those silly women who harrassed him at that pub, he thought he would somehow go back and try and tell Farage something that the DM printed taken out of context just to troll their readership?

It was beyond desperate

[LeatherTrumpet]

some interesting views from Guido Fawkes blog


ancientpopeye • 4 hours ago

This is the non-biased BBC interview at its best. Davis asks the question then when Farage is half a sentence into the answer, the reptilian Davis starts muttering under his breath spouting innuendo deliberately designed to put the interviewee off his stroke.
Being completely unbiased the BBC condones this, probably with a voice in Davis's ear prompting him.

Frank Fisher ancientpopeye • 3 hours ago

It simply wasn't an interview - an interview is intended to elicit information - this was not. It was a series of interlocking traps - nothing but traps. Farage did well to keep his temper.

Robert Basset Frank Fisher • an hour ago

Farages patience is remarkable, many a lesser mortal would have flipped about half way through this.

Personally, I would likely have turfed Davis in the balls before giving him the Macho Man Randy Savage treatment off the top turnbuckle...

Sandy ancientpopeye • 3 hours ago

They are trained to do it. That is why any righty is constantly interrupted by BBC interviewers and lefties are allowed free reign. The interruptions break up the message and it is less likely to register in a coherent way with the listener.

Rollo10 ancientpopeye • 2 hours ago

Also worth noting Davis's 'mic' was a touch higher than Nigel Farages. It's the NLP of the BBC kicking in.

Anonymous • 2 hours ago

Davies didnt ask any questions about UKIP policy and their manifesto.

Even at the end, Davies said,

"were running out of time, so let me ask a question about your manifesto, but before we do that, a question about your old manifesto...."

Un fcuking believable...

Note Davies forgot to ask about UKIPs plan to cut the BBC licence fee by 65%....

Funny that.



http://order-order.com/2015/04/23/ev...KjnH3L1xWG-TXQ

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Also worth noting Davis's 'mic' was a touch higher than Nigel Farages. It's the NLP of the BBC kicking in.

Anonymous • 2 hours ago

LMFAO

You're giving us quote by people who want to remain anonymous?

I was waiting for the Ukippers to claim it was stitch up and to a certain extent they are right but it was hilarious the way Farage claimed three quotes that Davis attributed to him were false. He didnt stand by his words or claim they were taken out of content, he simply claimed he didnt say it. Thats not good enough for any supposed statesman. He needed to come across as strong but Farage came across as whiney and petty.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

LMFAO

You're giving us quote by people who want to remain anonymous?

I was waiting for the Ukippers to claim it was stitch up and to a certain extent they are right but it was hilarious the way Farage claimed three quotes that Davis attributed to him were false. He didnt stand by his words or claim they were taken out of content, he simply claimed he didnt say it. Thats not good enough for any supposed statesman. He needed to come across as strong but Farage came across as whiney and petty.

nice try

the general consensus is only one person lost in that interview and it was the reptilian evan

paxman will be turning in his grave


if he were dead

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

nice try

the general consensus is only one person lost in that interview and it was the reptilian evan

paxman will be turning in his grave


if he were dead

The comments seem mixed to me but if you want to pick the ones that suit you and claim a victory then that's up to you.

[Jack_]

Evan was just as harsh on all the other leaders, that's his job. For any supporters of any party to claim that he, or most other interviewers for that matter, were harsher on their leader as opposed to the others is quite frankly just pathetic whining.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Evan was just as harsh on all the other leaders, that's his job. For any supporters of any party to claim that he, or most other interviewers for that matter, were harsher on their leader as opposed to the others is quite frankly just pathetic whining.

no one on here has claimed that?


My claim is he is just a crap interviewer and quite unlikeable

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The comments seem mixed to me but if you want to pick the ones that suit you and claim a victory then that's up to you.

no Girth I think his constant "traps" and interruptions made for bad tv. he missed a golden chance

and no license question?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no Girth I think his constant "traps" and interruptions made for bad tv. he missed a golden chance

and no license question?

I was entertained.

Three quotes attributed to Farage denied as incorrect. Disagreement over his segment on Fox news and who he was referring to. I found it quite comical.