[bitontheslide]

from the BBC ....

"And documents passed to the BBC suggest Jeremy Corbyn's office sought to delay and water down the Labour Remain campaign. Sources suggest that they are evidence of "deliberate sabotage".

One email from the leader's office suggests that Mr Corbyn's director of strategy and communications, Seumas Milne, was behind Mr Corbyn's reluctance to take a prominent role in Labour's campaign to keep the UK in the EU. One email, discussing one of the leader's speeches, said it was because of the "hand of Seumas. If he can't kill it, he will water it down so much to hope nobody notices it".

A series of messages dating back to December seen by the BBC shows correspondence between the party leader's office, the Labour Remain campaign and Labour HQ, discussing the European campaign. It shows how a sentence talking about immigration was removed on one occasion and how Mr Milne refused to sign off a letter signed by 200 MPs after it had already been approved.

The documents show concern in Labour HQ and the Labour Remain campaign about Mr Corbyn's commitment to the campaign - one email says: "What is going on here?" Another email from Labour Remain sources to the leader's office complains "there is no EU content here - we agreed to have Europe content in it". Sources say they show the leader's office was reluctant to give full support to the EU campaign and how difficult it was to get Mr Corbyn to take a prominent role.

Mr Corbyn has insisted publicly that he campaigned hard to keep the country in the EU and that he made a number of speeches around the country, and attended many campaigning events. But many shadow cabinet ministers believe his performance in the campaign has shown that he is simply not capable of leading the party. One senior figure told me: "People have just had enough and are embarrassed to be part of it." Jeremy Corbyn's team are adamant that he will stand again for the leadership, and they believe the party's members would back him again."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36633238

[arista]

9 MP's now Resigned new total

Northern Irish MP

[Kizzy]

The BBC end up with lots of information... ask cliff.

[arista]

Number 10th Resigned
Lord Fulconer

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Excellent post with valid arguments, but when it comes to your question; "He will be replaced by a right wing Blairite MP in a right wing parliament. [B]Is that what Labour supporters want? - the fact that Labour supporters backed 'Remain' can only lead to the concluson that a lot of Labour Supporters are now more confused about their politics than ever. Which is sad.

To be honest Kirk, this whole thing is confusing me. I, along with a lot of Labour supporters couldn't of campaigned in this referendum because we were on the wrong side of Labour to support their cause.

Whilst Corbyn needs to brush up his elocution and confidence, I’ve never doubted for a moment that he’s the man of the people for the people. My biggest fear is, his passion for fairness will now be replaced with a new bunch of Blairite wolves and all these supposed Labour supporters will celebrate Corbyn's downfall. Shame on them.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Exactly, he has done to jeremy what was done to his father for his principles many yrs ago, Hilary should be thoroughly ashamed.
The rest of the power hungry mob can walk if they like, this quote reminds me of corbyns reaction to brexit...

'In a Time of Universal Deceit — Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act'

What was wrong with saying he wasn't 100%, with so much uncertainty around leave and remain how could anyone in any honesty say any different?

I kissed you for this post earlier but it got deleted for some reason.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I kissed you for this post earlier but it got deleted for some reason.

we will have none of that kissing in serious debates!

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we will have none of that kissing in serious debates!

It wasn't a snog...honest!

[Kizzy]

where has my post gone too?... I didn't quote you, (thanks for the snog btw)

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

where has my post gone too?... I didn't quote you, (thanks for the snog btw)

hilary is the newest member of the mod team now he has time on his hands

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

hilary is the newest member of the mod team now he has time on his hands

It's ok I found it, hill will have more time to lick his david camerons bogies collection now

[arista]

Corbyn will Replace all 10.

This is a Lucy Powell (party manager) Set Up
of the Blair MPs

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's ok I found it, hill will have more time to lick his david camerons bogies collection now

This is something I might expect to hear from my seven year old niece.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

This is something I might expect to hear from my seven year old niece.

She sounds well cool, thanks for sharing.

[empire]

the labour party went against many of its voters, who wanted to vote leave in the referendum, and people can say that the tory party are in worse shape, but labour are badly fractured, blair only filled those gaps on the wall, but he could never repair it, and just made a false sense of unity, what the party need's to do is, get rid of the neo-blairites, the far-left-marxists, and most important of all, the champagne socialists, and bring in the ordinary working people to take control of the party, instead of the ones who get rich mummy and daddy to pay for them into westminster,

[arista]

Corbyn Tells Labour Rebels: Put Up Or Shut Up
http://news.sky.com/story/1717937/co...-up-or-shut-up

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Corbyn Tells Labour Rebels: Put Up Or Shut Up
http://news.sky.com/story/1717937/co...-up-or-shut-up

I think he may find this time they will put up.

[arista]

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think he may find this time they will put up.

Not until
he has someone Against him

[Kizzy]

Good, blairite dead wood gone

Onwards and upwards, brave new world and all that... If we can have a brand new UK why not a brand new old Labour party?....eh?

I'm in ...(again)

[arista]

Me and Kizzy stick with Corbyn

Joey leaves

[Kizzy]

Our country faces a huge challenge following Thursday’s vote to leave the European Union. And the British people have a right to know how their elected leaders are going to respond.

We need to come together to heal the divisions exposed by the vote. We have to respect the decision that has been made, hold the government to democratic account over its response, and ensure that working people don’t pay the price of exit.

Neither wing of the Tory government has an exit plan. Labour will now ensure that our reform agenda is at the heart of the negotiations that lie ahead. That includes the freedom to shape our economy for the future and the necessity of protecting social and employment rights.

One clear message from last Thursday’s vote is that millions of people feel shut out of a political and economic system that has let them down and scarred our country with grotesque levels of inequality.

I was elected by hundreds of thousands of Labour party members and supporters with an overwhelming mandate for a different kind of politics.

I regret there have been resignations today from my shadow cabinet. But I am not going to betray the trust of those who voted for me – or the millions of supporters across the country who need Labour to represent them.

Those who want to change Labour’s leadership will have to stand in a democratic election, in which I will be a candidate.

Over the next 24 hours, I will reshape my shadow cabinet and announce a new leadership team to take forward Labour’s campaign for a fairer Britain - and to get the best deal with Europe for our people'.



http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ory-leadership

[the truth]

tony benn was a legend, he wasnt always right but he was a man incapable of lying ...but look at how disgracefully new labour treated him. corbyn needs to grow some balls and state his real opinions. get rid of blairites ride the storm and see where ti takes him. i doubt he has the talent but if he has the character that might be enough

[Vicky.]

Losing the Tory-lites is not necessarily a bad thing IMO...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Losing the Tory-lites is not necessarily a bad thing IMO...

For Sure
Wise Vicky