[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think its hard for many to actually get perspective when they cannot recall basic facts

I have lost count by how many times I have read

"she called him a rapist and a murderer"

When she did not

What she said was he looked like one and in fact he did look very deranged at that point and as looks are subjective she said what she saw

But please notice Brian did not call out Helen by 'looks' he went by her behaviour & actions..which is the way it should be 'de-mentor comment' his comments were not 'hate filled' they were slightly humerous I mean come on it's a rare thing someone gets compared to a Harry Potter character as an insult

[Fosse]

Originally Posted by MelihV

Very harsh comment. Brian is not like that at all.

He's not intellectually challenged?

Ok then, borderline cretin/moron with violent tendencies.

[rocket]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I can't put into words how much I disagree with you

Me too...
There is nothing good to say about that vile woman..

[Angelika]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

What a scary creep!

Shame on anyone who condones Helen's behaviour tonight

[Glenn.]

Poor bullied Brian. Having to escape because of that witch.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think its hard for many to actually get perspective when they cannot recall basic facts

I have lost count by how many times I have read

"she called him a rapist and a murderer"

When she did not

What she said was he looked like one and in fact he did look very deranged at that point and as looks are subjective she said what she saw

So why was she given a warning for it?

[jennyjuniper]

I think the reason Belo went over the wall, was because if he had gone out via the diary room he would be perceived as a quitter. Whereas by going out over the wall he can convince the public that he was 'driven' out. Unfortunately for Belo, the public aren't as stupid as he obviously thinks they are.

[Rorkimaru]

Honestly I don't buy the no cameras argument. If they were out of the house and in the real world both would have stood up and walked away way before it got close to that level. I do think he was aggressive and out of line but I don't think that he'd literally have attacked her.

Also Helen is a strong woman. I think she'd find it insulting that her gender means she's weaker and men can't stand up to her because she can stand up for herself. If they came to blows physically yeah, he'd probably demolish her but I don't think there is a realistic scenario where that'd happen.

[ThriceShy]

He was driven out.

Don't forget, Brian was being paid for this so this was his place of employment.

Imagine being at work and some vile chav calling you a rapist and murderer and your boss doing nothing about it.

[sungrass]

I do so wish that we had the arrows thing that you have on places where you leave comments - so you can get an accurate sense of where people stand. It seems as viewers we are divided here.

Im totally in agreement with Brian and think he is a legend.

I feel sorry for heartless Helen - it must have been hard for her growing up without love and affection and it shows.

If I was watching a family argument there - and one behaved like Helen and one behaved like Brian - I would be very ashamed of the one who behaved like Helen. I think what she said was way out of line. I wouldnt mind being called a scumbag - so what you know - I wouldnt provoke Brian - I would want to be his friend?? I just dont get why Helen has a 'need' to hate people - she continiously looks for reasons to put people down - thats her rader - its her thought process.

Brian has a heart - and to say you look like a rapist to a man like that is just - I dont dont know - gut wrenchingingly awful. It was a nasty thing to say on behalf of all women and men to trivialise something such as this - so Im sorry scumbag and rapist are not equal in terms of causing harm and defamation.

She is SO Loud!! when Nikki and Brian were talking - all you can hear is Helen in the background - I think she is ACTING 24/7 and I think she gets this much coverage from C5 because she gives them what they want. They wanted this. We are all allowing this by discussing it and watching it. Its been a very interesting series from an anthropological and psychological point of view.

They literally 'direct' her to be like this. It is selling your soul - and she is empty and heartless.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So why was she given a warning for it?

Because Brian Made a big deal out of..re branded it as "She called me a rapist"...complained to bb...then went over the wall...

C5 was covering their asses 1..because Brian is liked and they don't want to anger the public and 2 .. incase he tries to take legal action..


Helens comment where out of order..But Brian has call Helen and Marc everything under the sun while he has been in there as well displaying aggressive behavior...He has spent every free moment bitching and campaigning against helen and marc with the other housemates..do you recall what said about marc when he was bitching about Harry?

i can't see a single thing marc did last night to earn a warming...it was nothing more then the c5 saying "holy **** brian went over the wall..we better do some damage control or people are going to blame us...Helen and Marc..Helen and Marc..go on record by giving them a warning"

[Northern Monkey]

Nah.He gets angry and frustrated and it shows on his face but he's a pussycat imo.

[aman201]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

what a scary creep he is, confronted and standing up to a woman (whether you like her on not) is out of order, he provoked her until she told him he was a psycho ,which i fully agree with, he is a psycho and imo has serious mental health problems helen was spot on when she said to him "what would you do if these cameras were not here brian ?" i will tell you my opinion on what he would have done ......he would have attacked her
bb should have stepped in earlier and removed him from the house,he's a dangerous man,with a temper that is not normal
shame on anyone who condones his behaviour tonight

yeah alright mate.

[MB.]

I love how people can in one breath go 'omg people are SO OVERREACTING to what Helen did omg grow up it's just a TV show' and say 'eject Brian the nasty aggressive bully!!!! Helen was in the right!!!' in the next.

Good old on-season...

[JamesBond]

Brian was asking for an argument and trying to intimidate Helen, and this wasn't the first time. His body launguage was threatening and not once was he called up on it, it's almost like Big Brother give him a pass for being mentally challenged. He kicks off and storms into the diary room and plays the victim so that he doesn't get in trouble, and BB fall for if every time asking if he's okay.

[M X]

You're very wrong.