[Denver]

She was the main instigator in breaking down a mentally unwell man aswell as targeting another housemate for smelling of BO not real a great role model no

[Jason.]

You forgot her transphobic comments towards Sam.
And her nastiness towards Aisleyne and Susie.

But having said that. She is nowhere near as vitriolic and aggressive as Helen.
I think Helen's is far far far far worse.

[Daniel.]

Nikki wasn't the 'main instigator' at all, that was comfortable Richard. Lea, Lisa, Sezer, George all played bigger parts than her too. Laughable

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Nikki wasn't the 'main instigator' at all, that was comfortable Richard. Lea, Lisa, Sezer, George all played bigger parts than her too. Laughable

I'd agree with this.

Although, I think George played an equal part Nikki played. She said "Take his clothes, it will hurt him more", and he took the clothes.

Other than that, I don't really remember anything else either of them did.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Nikki wasn't the 'main instigator' at all, that was comfortable Richard. Lea, Lisa, Sezer, George all played bigger parts than her too. Laughable

I agree that Nikki wasn't the main instigator, but she still played a part in the bullying, and this is why I can't agree with the adoration of her BB7 stint.

Everyone involved should be equally judged, as opposed to some people having it held against them and others having it swept under the carpet.

[Amy Jade]

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Nikki wasn't the 'main instigator' at all, that was comfortable Richard. Lea, Lisa, Sezer, George all played bigger parts than her too. Laughable

Erm..put his clothes in the pool, that will hurt him more. With a manic grin

However this was years back. I did think she had grown up a bit, and I have been liking her. Tonight though, she was the same petulant up herself child that she has always been

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I agree that Nikki wasn't the main instigator, but she still played a part in the bullying, and this is why I can't agree with the adoration of her BB7 stint.

I still don't think she's anything near a bully at all, it must be exhausting to live with Shahbaz.

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

I think Nikki has learned from her behavior and seems to have grown up a lot. Can't say the same about Helen. If anything she's worse.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Erm..put his clothes in the pool, that will hurt him more. With a manic grin

However this was years back. I did think she had grown up a bit, and I have been liking her. Tonight though, she was the same petulant up herself child that she has always been

She aid one stupid comment, so what?

[Jason.]

I think Richard and Sezer were the worst.

With Lea and Lisa following.
But, I think Lisa and Lea were more argumentative towards him. Whereas Richard and Sezer just wanted to isolate him and humiliate him.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I still don't think she's anything near a bully at all, it must be exhausting to live with Shahbaz.

Shahbaz being hard to live with (which I absolutely agree with) doesn't at all excuse the way they reacted, I definitely class her involvement as bullying.

And regardless of how much or little she did herself, the fact that she ran around manically laughing her head off as they taunted him said enough.

[Jason.]

Everyone single housemate who walked out of the living room during the incident was a bully, IMO.

George was thew only one who stayed. But the fool then tarnished it, by locking him in the garden and taking his clothes.

I think they were all bullies, IMO.
Even Pete, who did nothing to stop it.

[reece(:]

If Nikki is a bully then Helen is a mass murderer.

[LukeB]

Nikki wasn't that nice in BB7 but she wasn't that nasty either. Helen is much worse than Nikki tbh.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by reece(:

If Nikki is a bully then Helen is a mass murderer.

There are different levels of bullying. Helen's is worse absolutely, that doesn't make Nikki's behaviour in BB7 any less warranted of the word.

[EspeonBB]

Yeah there were moments in BB7 where Nikki was nasty (her treatment of Shahbaz, her transphobia towards Sam) but she also had sweet moments where she showed compassion unlike Helen.

Plus I think Nikki has grown a lot since BB7, unlike Helen who hasn't changed at all (and may have actually gotten worse)

[Daniel.]

I just can't get behind the idea that one silly comment was bullying Richard bullied Shahbaz, Nikki was stupid and unpleasant but bully? I don't see it.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

Yeah there were moments in BB7 where Nikki was nasty (her treatment of Shahbaz, her transphobia towards Sam) but she also had sweet moments where she showed compassion unlike Helen.

Plus I think Nikki has grown a lot since BB7, unlike Helen who hasn't changed at all (and may have actually gotten worse)

See, I really respect posts like this where Nikki fans actually acknowledge that she had some really bad moments, rather than the typical passive-aggressive mocking and rewriting of history.

You can support someone and still appreciate that they've made mistakes.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by reece(:

If Nikki is a bully then Helen is a mass murderer.

you forgot rapist as well

come on you're slacking, tell it like it is

[LukeB]

I've re-watched BB7 nearly finished and Nikki wasn't as nasty as Richard,Sezer and Grace(even tho i love her, don't want to accuse of being bias)

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

See, I really respect posts like this where Nikki fans actually acknowledge that she had some really bad moments, rather than the typical passive-aggressive mocking and rewriting of history.

You can support someone and still appreciate that they've made mistakes.

I hope this wasnt aimed at me

I don't condone hat Nikki did, it was nasty, just not bullying

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Nikki wasn't that nice in BB7 but she wasn't that nasty either. Helen is much worse than Nikki tbh.

Nikki was nasty, in BB7.
She just wasn't Helen level nasty. But to say she wasn't thatt nasty is an understatement.

I watched a lot of LF that year, and the bitching she did about Aisleyne, along with Grace and Mikey when they were in the HND, during the final week wasn't nice at all.

I remember Nikki and Grace poking fun at Aisleyne and Grace telling Nikki if she does go back in to convince Aisleyne to wear her blue eviction dress as it made Aisleyne look like a man, and a slapper, and it would be humiliating for her to walk out of the house looking like that.

That's why Nikki left the house during the final, to a worse reception compared to the winners reception she left the house to five weeks earlier.

She was pretty vitriolic about Aisleyne with Jayne during the week she was evicted too.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I just can't get behind the idea that one silly comment was bullying Richard bullied Shahbaz, Nikki was stupid and unpleasant but bully? I don't see it.

Okay, I'll word it this way: Shahbaz was being bullied (whether you believe by Nikki or not, whatever), and Nikki, instead of seeing an issue with it, gleefully encouraged them to "hurt him more". It wasn't just "a silly comment", she actively encouraged what was happening and enjoyed it.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

There are different levels of bullying. Helen's is worse absolutely, that doesn't make Nikki's behaviour in BB7 any less warranted of the word.

This is BB16, we're 9 years on so idk why this thread is needed. Everyone did stuff to Shahbaz and as BB was far stricter back then they would have pulled them from the show had it gone too far but they did not as Shahbaz was goading people at times too.