[cfromhx02]

There is a Huge Difference between Aisleyne + Danny as against Helen and Marc.

Aisleyne and Danny defend people either on own or try to defend ,better protect the group as a whole

from attacks / abuse (because they grin as they do it) from Helen and Marc.

Where as Helen and Marc Attack + Abuse Individuals who Are Their Main Opponents.

I call it Abuse,which it is,because they grin when they continue to abuse people after they are clearly seen to be upset.

Even when they try to hide their joy at abusing other people after they are hurt,the smile usually escapes their lips before the end of the facade

where they try to hide it from us.

[Rorkimaru]

What are you talking about. Go back and watch the episode with the rapist murderer comments and pay attention this time. Yes Helen and Marc stand up to Nickki and say they agree because she does nothing in the house. Something Nikki bragged about when talking to Emma. ie something true. Then time passed.

Then the Nikki and Brian (and Jack) stood up suggesting Helen for marrying for money and Brian chose words that were next to irelivant and designed to hurt Helen. This was ironic because they both complained about Marc and Helen standing up together. He said something along the lines of "She is trash, has no morals and looks like she just walked out of a dustbin and that's why I think she'd marry for money". Helen said she disagreed with their statement because she claimed marriage is one thing she really wants to do right. Brian then stormed around the room calling her a scumbag for a few minutes before Helen finally made the vile comments she did regarding him looking like a rapist and murderer. Brian even smirked at Helen when she first started getting upset/angry.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

There is a Huge Difference between Aisleyne + Danny as against Helen and Marc.

Aisleyne and Danny defend people either on own or try to defend ,better protect the group as a whole

from attacks / abuse (because they grin as they do it) from Helen and Marc.

Where as Helen and Marc Attack + Abuse Individuals who Are Their Main Opponents.

I call it Abuse,which it is,because they grin when they continue to abuse people after they are clearly seen to be upset.

Even when they try to hide their joy at abusing other people after they are hurt,the smile usually escapes their lips before the end of the facade

where they try to hide it from us.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

What are you talking about. Go back and watch the episode with the rapist murderer comments and pay attention this time. Yes Helen and Marc stand up to Nickki and say they agree because she does nothing in the house. Something Nikki bragged about when talking to Emma. ie something true. Then time passed.

Then the Nikki and Brian (and Jack) stood up suggesting Helen for marrying for money and Brian chose words that were next to irelivant and designed to hurt Helen. This was ironic because they both complained about Marc and Helen standing up together. He said something along the lines of "She is trash, has no morals and looks like she just walked out of a dustbin and that's why I think she'd marry for money". Helen said she disagreed with their statement because she claimed marriage is one thing she really wants to do right. Brian then stormed around the room calling her a scumbag for a few minutes before Helen finally made the vile comments she did regarding him looking like a rapist and murderer. Brian even smirked at Helen when she first started getting upset/angry.

such a great poster

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

There is a Huge Difference between Aisleyne + Danny as against Helen and Marc.

Aisleyne and Danny defend people either on own or try to defend ,better protect the group as a whole

from attacks / abuse (because they grin as they do it) from Helen and Marc.

Where as Helen and Marc Attack + Abuse Individuals who Are Their Main Opponents.

I call it Abuse,which it is,because they grin when they continue to abuse people after they are clearly seen to be upset.

Even when they try to hide their joy at abusing other people after they are hurt,the smile usually escapes their lips before the end of the facade

where they try to hide it from us.

I did like Aisleyne's "ding dong the witch is gone" and to such loud booing too!

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

What are you talking about. Go back and watch the episode with the rapist murderer comments and pay attention this time. Yes Helen and Marc stand up to Nickki and say they agree because she does nothing in the house. Something Nikki bragged about when talking to Emma. ie something true. Then time passed.

Then the Nikki and Brian (and Jack) stood up suggesting Helen for marrying for money and Brian chose words that were next to irelivant and designed to hurt Helen. This was ironic because they both complained about Marc and Helen standing up together. He said something along the lines of "She is trash, has no morals and looks like she just walked out of a dustbin and that's why I think she'd marry for money". Helen said she disagreed with their statement because she claimed marriage is one thing she really wants to do right. Brian then stormed around the room calling her a scumbag for a few minutes before Helen finally made the vile comments she did regarding him looking like a rapist and murderer. Brian even smirked at Helen when she first started getting upset/angry.

I love you

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

There is a Huge Difference between Aisleyne + Danny as against Helen and Marc.

Aisleyne and Danny defend people either on own or try to defend ,better protect the group as a whole

from attacks / abuse (because they grin as they do it) from Helen and Marc.

Where as Helen and Marc Attack + Abuse Individuals who Are Their Main Opponents.

I call it Abuse,which it is,because they grin when they continue to abuse people after they are clearly seen to be upset.

Even when they try to hide their joy at abusing other people after they are hurt,the smile usually escapes their lips before the end of the facade

where they try to hide it from us.

What a load of old tosh! Honestly, precisely when has Marc in particular "abused" anyone in the BBH? Same goes for Helen. They have been continually attacked and bullied by Danny in particular.

[qwerty42]

they contradict themselves. danny is very thick

[Vicky.]

The difference between Marc and Danny is Marc has never yet threatened physical abuse, or demonstrated any form of aggression. Yet Marc is the one in the wrong..again. Apparently because Danny showed actual aggression, Marc had been passive aggressive to provoke it You could not make it up.

[billy123]

All 4 of them are utter cockwombles defending any of them is almost as ridiculous as trying to defend one of them and yet attack another.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

All 4 of them are utter cockwombles defending any of them is almost as ridiculous as trying to defend one of them and yet attack another.

This has got to be one of the best insults ever...I must remember it for my next argument

[sampvt]

There are no major differences between any of them, they are all people on a game show and are all trying to win their own special ways. The difference we all feel and discuss, are in the perception their fans have of them and the unusual ways those fans try to justify their chosen champions bad acts.

If say for example, Marc has a fight, I defend him and make excuses for his outrageous behaviour even if I think he is in the wrong. A Danny fan will claim its the most disgusting thing he has ever seen just to win brownie points for his fav. Bottom line is we all know whats right and whats wrong, but nearly all of us wont admit it because this is our game within a game.

Is Marc the best man in there, of course he is. Is Danny a scum bag, of course he is. Are they both nice people in the outside world, probably. Game over.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

What are you talking about. Go back and watch the episode with the rapist murderer comments and pay attention this time. Yes Helen and Marc stand up to Nickki and say they agree because she does nothing in the house. Something Nikki bragged about when talking to Emma. ie something true. Then time passed.

Then the Nikki and Brian (and Jack) stood up suggesting Helen for marrying for money and Brian chose words that were next to irelivant and designed to hurt Helen. This was ironic because they both complained about Marc and Helen standing up together. He said something along the lines of "She is trash, has no morals and looks like she just walked out of a dustbin and that's why I think she'd marry for money". Helen said she disagreed with their statement because she claimed marriage is one thing she really wants to do right. Brian then stormed around the room calling her a scumbag for a few minutes before Helen finally made the vile comments she did regarding him looking like a rapist and murderer. Brian even smirked at Helen when she first started getting upset/angry.

I was going to do a rather long post, you have saved me the time.

Fantastic response from you and really well said, brilliant post.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

There are no major differences between any of them, they are all people on a game show and are all trying to win their own special ways. The difference we all feel and discuss, are in the perception their fans have of them and the unusual ways those fans try to justify their chosen champions bad acts.

If say for example, Marc has a fight, I defend him and make excuses for his outrageous behaviour even if I think he is in the wrong. A Danny fan will claim its the most disgusting thing he has ever seen just to win brownie points for his fav. Bottom line is we all know whats right and whats wrong, but nearly all of us wont admit it because this is our game within a game.

Is Marc the best man in there, of course he is. Is Danny a scum bag, of course he is. Are they both nice people in the outside world, probably. Game over.

Really? That seems to be how a lot of people go on here tbf, but I could never do that I can like a housemate while still pointing out when they are wrong

[jessicadanielle]

To be fair I don't think there's much difference between the lot of them (though I have always thought Helen was more relentless, more extreme, etc. etc. and in a different league to the others).

But otherwise, they all use unnecessarily abusive language sometimes, whip out insults during tasks when it's unnecessary, and all of them have enjoyed seeing others upset. Helen sniggering about Jale/Christopher last year to a group of people, Nikki and Aisleyne laughing in the DR at Helen getting angry, Danny saying he was happy that Helen sees what it's like to be attacked by her, Marc smiling after he's wound someone up.

If I had to pick a difference between them, it would be that Helen and Marc do so relatively unprovoked (PARTICULARLY Helen during BB15) whereas Danny and Nikki and also Brian were slowly being wound up by Helen and/or Marc before they started being d**ks to them. Helen and Marc just seem more "ready" to go in on people, whereas it takes more for Danny/Nikki/Brian to do so. That's the way I see it anyway.

I'm not sure about Aisleyne. I was too young to remember their series very well and she hasn't been in this series long, but I think she seems to enjoy confrontation a bit too much atm.

[Griffin5779]

don't really buy this argument...

marc can pick on people but it is hardly abuse..

helen was a bitch last year and wasn't sweet this time around but brian was the started most rows this time around.

asslenye..here "defending" nicki' was a total fiction for the camera and aside that i've seen her do more bitching and attacking then defending anyone

danny..well danny does have "father of the house thing going" but there is a point where you can't justify your nasty aggressive attacking behavior by saying you where defrending some one and i can think of 3 times off the top of my head that he lost well past the point of being acceptable.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bobnot

All 4 of them are utter cockwombles defending any of them is almost as ridiculous as trying to defend one of them and yet attack another.

cockwombles ????

[BB1984]

After last nights episode it seems that Aisleyne & Danny are the ones that have issues with getting in peoples faces or personal space.
*That behaviour seems more intimidating or aggressive then a few nasty comments.

[waterhog]

i think there is a diffrance between all 4 - marc is clever 2. ashlighn has let her self down. 3. danny needs a bit more confidence and helen - well thats vile.

[Withano]

There's got to be some truth to your post when everybody in the house has had some sort of problem with Marc but only Marc has a problem with Danny.

Not gonna stick around for all the people calling Marc's behaviour banter though, good luck with defending this one!

[sampvt]

No need to defend Marc, he is the only one making the show interesting.

[Robodog]

This OP is clearly just another person caught up in this blind, runaway train 'hate campaign' against Helen and Marc. Sadly they are not alone as nearly the entire BOTS audience and panel have been behaving like a hate-filled blood-thirsty lynch mob all week; a lynch mob who are not prepared to look at the facts objectively - they don't want a fair trial - they just want to watch someone hang! It's disgusting beyond words.

As for the point made in the OP:

Aisleyen is defending? Against what?????

She arrived on the show and threw Helen's basic rations card down on the floor (like Helen was a dog), and called Helen a 'basic bitch'. Helen hadn't even opened her mouth by that point. That was 100% Aisleyene's attack as she had nothing to defend against.

Then she referred to Helen as 'spawn of satan'. Another unprovoked attack. Helen still said nothing.

Before Helen even ARRIVED on this year's show - every time Ais has been on BOTS this year AND when Emma interviewed Ais before Nikki went into the bunker - Ais has taken every opportunity to call Helen a slag, a nobody, vile, etc etc. All of which were unprovoked attacks - as Helen hadn't even BEEN on this year's BB by that point!!!!

If Helen hadn't even been on the show this year - then how can Aisleyene's attacks on her be called a 'defence'?!!!!!!

This OP just goes to prove the dangerous influencial power of this God-awful BB campaign of hate against Helen, whereby anyone can attack Helen and justify it as 'defence against the bully'. Even when Helen hasn't even said or done anything to provoke the verbal abuse she receives.

The MASSIVE joke in all of this is how the BB hate mob are the BIGGEST hypocrites. They say they hate Helen for being a bully and saying nasty things. Then they go on to bully her and say even nastier things!!!

That's like saying 'I hate people who throw stones. Let's go all down there and throw rocks at them!'

You couldn't make it up.

If anyone has been bullied in this year's BB - it is most certainly Helen.

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[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

There's got to be some truth to your post when everybody in the house has had some sort of problem with Marc but only Marc has a problem with Danny.

Not gonna stick around for all the people calling Marc's behaviour banter though, good luck with defending this one!

The only person getting violent though is Danny.

It doesn't matter who winds who up or who has a problem with who.

Marc hasn't had warnings for violent behaviour, Danny has.