[abhorson]

My take on cockgate for what it is worth.

If someone tells you to repeatedly stop something of that manor from Aaron and he went even further. He deserved to go. The BB rules were quite clear and drink was no excuse.

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by abhorson

My take on cockgate for what it is worth.

If someone tells you to repeatedly stop something of that manor from Aaron and he went even further. He deserved to go. The BB rules were quite clear and drink was no excuse.

LOL @ cockgate.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by abhorson

My take on cockgate for what it is worth.

If someone tells you to repeatedly stop something of that manor from Aaron and he went even further. He deserved to go. The BB rules were quite clear and drink was no excuse.

Nonsense. Surely it was Joel's fault?... I mean people spreading their ****hole in your face is the new hello. They'll also slap their cock on you if they really like you.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by JamesBond

I think it's more of case that he's given up trying to explain it.

Well you try to explain how a man that was sober is okay to thrust someone from behind and make them uncomfortable, but it's not for someone that was pissed out of their brains?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by abhorson

My take on cockgate for what it is worth.

If someone tells you to repeatedly stop something of that manor from Aaron and he went even further. He deserved to go. The BB rules were quite clear and drink was no excuse.

But Joel didn't tell Aaron to stop in a proper manner as he was laughing along with him.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

Nonsense. Surely it was Joel's fault?... I mean people spreading their ****hole in your face is the new hello. They'll also slap their cock on you if they really like you.

Sarcasm i hope. Either that or you misread my post.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But Joel didn't tell Aaron to stop in a proper manner as he was laughing along with him.

That i agree with.

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well you try to explain how a man that was sober is okay to thrust someone from behind and make them uncomfortable, but it's not for someone that was pissed out of their brains?

It's not my argument, but the simple fact is Aaron had his cock out whereas Marc didn't.

Marc was being playful, Aaron was being playful and sexual.

Dry humping and cockslapping are two very different things.

[Mystic Mock]

Is Lampfan trying to call me a troll after being on the Forum for 5 years?

At least I'm not a member that's joined this year calling people it and having opinions that are pushing Ch5's agenda, and are defending almost every decision that the show makes.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Is Lampfan trying to call me a troll after being on the Forum for 5 years?

At least I'm not a member that's joined this year calling people it and having opinions that are pushing Ch5's agenda, and are defending almost every decision that the show makes.

This is an internet forum. People come and go. Some post alot, some post and vanish.

You get no special treatment just because "you've been here". When you talk out of your a*rs. You get called out. Can't handle it?... Tough sh!te

Here's a thought... stop talking sh!t?

[jet]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I am afraid Joel backtracked on his stance when he said he did not want Chloe to go...so he did actually have some input..

Yes, he was opting out but gave an opinion on who he wanted to keep. He was taking a so called principled stance, but at the same time got his say in. In other words, he wanted it both ways.

...and did people not see the convo between Christian and Joel tonight when Christian quoted him as saying to him 'You and Danny make the decision' and Joel agreed that he said that. So he wasn't averse to the decision being made to evict a HM by someone else AT ALL, just not by him.
I've really wanted to continue to like Joel as he was one of my early favs as my previous posts show, but he is coming across to me as more sanctimonious and holier - than - thou by the day and letting others take the heat and wriggling out of the latest twist has further disappointed me. Imo if he was really serious about his principles he would have laid heavily into BB in the diary room for putting himself AND his fellow HM's in that position and showed some understanding of the dilemma that those left to choose had to face, instead of laying into the other HM's for not vetoing it.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

If you're so principled.

But will he? Will he fook.

I dont like what BB did but his stance on the moral high ground is a wobbly one.

Now if the offer was pizza not money we all know he would have shoved all 3 of those housemates out the door for merely a slice

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But Joel didn't tell Aaron to stop in a proper manner as he was laughing along with him.

I agree.

Apart from Joel telling him to fu ck off because he didn't like it and was uncomfortable, Joel was loving it.

Isn't it lovely how some posters think that not objecting in "a proper manner" is akin to permitting people to sexually abuse someone.

Right on, brothers and sisters, yeah.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

This is an internet forum. People come and go. Some post alot, some post and vanish.

You get no special treatment just because "you've been here". When you talk out of your a*rs. You get called out. Can't handle it?... Tough sh!te

Here's a thought... stop talking sh!t?

I would stop if I was talking ****.

Having Ch5's agenda makes me suspicious about you is all when you've only got a tiny post count and have only joined this year, I'm up for being proven wrong though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus

I agree.

Apart from Joel telling him to fu ck off because he didn't like it and was uncomfortable, Joel was loving it.

Isn't it lovely how some posters think that not objecting in "a proper manner" is akin to permitting people to sexually abuse someone.

Right on, brothers and sisters, yeah.

Sexual abuse?

People have become so tame nowadays with the BB contestants, the show is suppose to be wild, not toffs, himbos, and bimbos hooking up and ****ing each other.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I would stop if I was talking ****.

Having Ch5's agenda makes me suspicious about you is all when you've only got a tiny post count and have only joined this year, I'm up for being proven wrong though.

Avoid vexations Mock, they just waste your energy and time.You just keep on with your across the board amazing posts.

I think where Aaron went over the limit was when with Joel not even in the room he got into Joels bed exposed too.
That is someones' private space and should not be violated at all.

I do think Joel did not say NO to him strongly enough and all were laughing, I think it was wrong to eject Aaron.
However I would be furious if anyone,even family got into my bed when I wasn't there fully exposed too.

That was where Aaron went a bit too far,still not an ejection issue and no way at all considering what Danny as got away with time after time.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Joel is the most honest housemate left in there. It would have been easy for him to rattle off what Danny did that he was CLOSEST to Jack and Chloe but he was uncomfortable evicting a fellow housemate like that. I love him. There isn't a shred of fakeness in him. A true winner

Well said, another really good post.

[Vanessa]

Joel and Cristian friendship is the best thing in there for me. Chroel to win!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Which the people responsible for the show, the BB production team, came up with. If he wants to protest it, then he should take them on.

He did take them on, he told them they were wrong in his opinion and he stuck by what he said too by not voting to do it.

Since no punishment has been given out to him for doing so, clearly BB accepted his reasons for not voting,they have done nothing as to to him for not voting.

When you are accommodated like that on an issue, you wouldn't then leave,you have made your stand and been able to hold firm to that stand.
Joel also accepted the other 3 housemates chose to make the decision,while he remained firm he was not going to,that is actually very democratic.

BB got their way with the majority decision,Joel was able to hold to his principles and also have his way on the issue too.
No way a leaving or walking out scenario even needing being thought of, let alone coming about.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Avoid vexations Mock, they just waste your energy and time.You just keep on with your across the board amazing posts.

I think where Aaron went over the limit was when with Joel not even in the room he got into Joels bed exposed too.
That is someones' private space and should not be violated at all.

I do think Joel did not say NO to him strongly enough and all were laughing, I think it was wrong to eject Aaron.
However I would be furious if anyone,even family got into my bed when I wasn't there fully exposed too.

That was where Aaron went a bit too far,still not an ejection issue and no way at all considering what Danny as got away with time after time.

You make fair points Joey, if people want to go off Aaron for that action then fair enough, did Aaron deserve a warning? Definitely, but did he deserve his “friend” encouraging his ejection to BB in the Diary Room? I personally don't think so.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You make fair points Joey, if people want to go off Aaron for that action then fair enough, did Aaron deserve a warning? Definitely, but did he deserve his “friend” encouraging his ejection to BB in the Diary Room? I personally don't think so.

No, I think Aaron should have been warned and allowed to stay. I don;t think Joel to be fair called for him to be thrown out,he dis say he felt very uncomfortable by the incident.
Not sure they were what could be termed friends,they got on most times definitely.

Aarons problem was he perhaps went on with it too long but no, he should not have been ejected for it in my view.
By the same token however, he shouldn't have charged round almost naked and exposed after another housemate in the first place.

Mind you, I recall Mario hounding Ben Duncan and also often running round the house and garden fully naked.
No way was he ejected,that was channel 4 though.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

This is an internet forum. People come and go. Some post alot, some post and vanish.

You get no special treatment just because "you've been here". When you talk out of your a*rs. You get called out. Can't handle it?... Tough sh!te

Here's a thought... stop talking sh!t?

[REDCROP]

Stop watching the show if you object to it...idiots

[REDCROP]

If Joel is an idiot to stay with the show if he doesn't agree with it then you idiots should stop watching the show for the exact same reason..only difference is

Joel is standing up for whats fair and defending Sam....so how can all you Sam fans who think it was so bad that BB evicted her POSSIBLY now hate Joel for defending her ?

You are so dumb...and so superficial ....its a bit pathetic

[abhorson]

Someone got out of the bed from the wrong side this morning!