[Toy Soldier]

For the record, I obviously don't think the Queen herself is or was a Nazi or that at 8 years old she had any idea what she was doing. But that's not really the point.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So there are no links at all between the Royals / the British gentry and the German Nazi party at all. No hints of any sort of Nazi sympathising at all. Gotcha.

Is it easier to live in a world with a whitewashed version of history? I assume it must be, I don't understand why people are so keen to do it otherwise.

Yes there is

"Prince Edward, the future Edward VIII"

Loved Hitler

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

To put this into perspective, this story centres on an eighty year old picture of a six year old girl. And frankly, I think the Queen Mother demonstrated during WW2 who's side she was on and the Queen herself served as a driver and mechanic in the ATS. The only people trying to rewrite history here work for a third-rate tabloid that's good only in an emergency if you should run out of toilet paper.

You are incredible,another great one liner.
I wouldn't even use it for that however.

[Toy Soldier]

Anyone who has ever actually tried using newspaper in an emergency knows that it is a grave error. Using a sock and binning it is preferrable. Or anything else that comes to hand. Newspaper is second only to the inner tube of the toilet roll when it comes to places you just should not go.

[GypsyGoth]

They're not nazis anymore, and that's what counts.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Anyone who has ever actually tried using newspaper in an emergency knows that it is a grave error. Using a sock and binning it is preferrable. Or anything else that comes to hand. Newspaper is second only to the inner tube of the toilet roll when it comes to places you just should not go.

The Sun
is the biggest seller in the UK

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

The Sun
is the biggest seller in the UK

It is also the cheaper than the others,save the 'Star' and the 'I'.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It is also the cheaper than the others,save the 'Star' and the 'I'.

For Sure

[waterhog]

its time for a some gentle music with no voice just instruments ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjEphmIqtjM

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

They're not nazis anymore, and that's what counts.

lmao

omg, ily

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So there are no links at all between the Royals / the British gentry and the German Nazi party at all. No hints of any sort of Nazi sympathising at all. Gotcha.

Is it easier to live in a world with a whitewashed version of history? I assume it must be, I don't understand why people are so keen to do it otherwise.

I never suggested anywhere in my post there were no links between some members of the royal family/British aristocracy so I'm not sure what it is you think you 'got' exactly. I am not an apologist for Nazi sympathisers as I think you probably know.

Why are you asking me if it's easier to live in a world with a whitewashed version of history? I commented solely on this issue, an eighty years old picture of a child that's being used by a questionable tabloid to sell their nasty rag.

[Z]

Khaleesi Elizabeth is of Germanic descent, it is known.

[arista]

Celebration: Philip's sister Sophie
opposite Hitler at the 1935 wedding
of Goering (with gold braid) in scene
featured in Channel 4HD documentary

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3gO7pxPFN

[Toy Soldier]

Still flabbergasted that this is such "big news" for the general public. Most had absolutely no idea, did they. None of this is new information but Joe Public has been too busy swooning over royal marriages and cooing over royal babies to actually notice.

I'm sure Wills is hard at work as we speak trying to fill Kate up with another royal baby. It's a bit soon but needs must... It's like rock paper scissors and everyone knows that Royal Baby always beats Closet Nazi.

[bitontheslide]

i'm no royalist, but the queen demonstrated where her loyalties lie by her actions during the second world war. I am gobsmacked that people question her allegiance now.

There are many things that we can justifiably criticise the queeen and the current royal family for, but any Nazi sympathisers are a long time dead and gone. Are descendants now to be held to account for their predecessors actions? If so, we better all go look quickly in our closets.

[waterhog]

so many people have distorted views on all matters - including me on somethings and we are entitled to them but there is pure ignorance on this topic as proved by the guy that did ring in and mathew wright had to cut him off. shocking.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm no royalist, but the queen demonstrated where her loyalties lie by her actions during the second world war. I am gobsmacked that people question her allegiance now.

There are many things that we can justifiably criticise the queeen and the current royal family for, but any Nazi sympathisers are a long time dead and gone. Are descendants now to be held to account for their predecessors actions? If so, we better all go look quickly in our closets.

This is true, we should focus on the ones who are alive now.

So, William and Harry actually seem like decent guys so far. Anyone older than them is dodgy as ****. But we're supposed to pretend otherwise, because Britain.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This is true, we should focus on the ones who are alive now.

So, William and Harry actually seem like decent guys so far. Anyone older than them is dodgy as ****. But we're supposed to pretend otherwise, because Britain.

I think William and Harry seem decent enough, but as you say, the rest are very dodgy, and if they have done anything that has crossed the line then they should be held accountable. I very much doubt the Queen has done anything wrong in that sense.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I think William and Harry seem decent enough, but as you say, the rest are very dodgy, and if they have done anything that has crossed the line then they should be held accountable. I very much doubt the Queen has done anything wrong in that sense.

The Queen herself, no, but I'm certain the things she knows about but would never breathe a word of would blow even my mind, and there's VERY little that I find shocking or even surprising.

[lostalex]

i think the only appropriate punishment is to have the hand that she used to salute, cut off in public and broadcast live.

[Denver]

The Queen for CBB?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Still flabbergasted that this is such "big news" for the general public. Most had absolutely no idea, did they. None of this is new information but Joe Public has been too busy swooning over royal marriages and cooing over royal babies to actually notice.

I'm sure Wills is hard at work as we speak trying to fill Kate up with another royal baby. It's a bit soon but needs must... It's like rock paper scissors and everyone knows that Royal Baby always beats Closet Nazi.

You have such a low view of Joe Public. Most of them know just as much about history and the royal family as you do, which may surprise you and I'm sure you'll argue against that.

And actually, Will is probably at work today, flying the air ambulance out of Cambridge, a job he started a couple of weeks ago following his discharge from the RAF.

Incidentally, who is the closet Nazi to which you refer?

[arista]

I am looking forward to the Ch4HD Royal Docu
30 - July -15

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have such a low view of Joe Public. Most of them know just as much about history and the royal family as you do, which may surprise you and I'm sure you'll argue against that.

You are correct, I do have an extremely low view of the vast majority of people. I have a low view of people just for supporting the simple idea that some people are "better by birth", which is of course what both Royalty and Naziism is about funnily enough.

I don't think it's an unfounded low view, personally. It's not even that I think I'm better than most, I just think there's a fairly obvious truth that human beings are absolutely awful creatures.

But yes, I am going to argue that you're incorrect, and that most of the general public don't know about - or don't believe (no doubt laughing much off as conspiracy theory) - the royal family's dirty underbelly.

At least I bloody well hope they don't know it and believe it and still wave their flags.

If you are right and they indeed do know it, and believe it, and yet they still support the royal family and consider them to be all cakes and tea and best of British pip pip pip... Then people are even worse than I thought.

[Toy Soldier]

Tl;dr I'd rather believe that people are just ignorant rather than that they willfully support something that is rancid to the very core.