[Samuel.]

We Were Upvoted for Posting Nazi Propaganda about Migrants in the Daily Mail

Over the past couple of weeks, @DMReporter and I have been getting more and more aghast by the tone of some of the coverage of the migration in Europe. This is especially apparent in newspaper comment sections where it now seems that literally anything goes.

You can fantasise about how you want to kill them:


You can rejoice in their death:


Or you can compare them to pests, dogs or filth.. (thanks Katie Hopkins)


So as a social experiment, @DMReporter and I wanted to see what level of support the comments would get if we took some famous pieces of Nazi propaganda and changed the word ‘Jew’ with ‘migrant’. For disclosure, a few of the comments we made were blocked by the Mail’s moderators however most of them made it through.

So here’s the original Nazi quote, the updated comment and how it fared when we put it up”

“In this struggle against Judah, there’s only a clear either/or. Any half measure leads to one’s own destruction. Judah and its world must die if humanity wants to live; there is no other choice than to fight a pitiless battle against the Jews in every form”. The Pestilential Miasma of the World by Robert Ley



MASSIVELY UPVOTED — this was even the highest rated comment at one stage!


“If the Jew wants to fight, it is fine with us. We have wanted that fight for a long time. There is no room in the world for the Jews any more. The Jew or us, one of us will have to go”. The Jews or Us by Robert Ley



UPVOTED!


“The Almighty has never helped a lazy man. He does not help the coward. He does not help a people that cannot help itself. The principle applies here”. Adolf Hitler: Broadcast to the German People On The Winter Help Scheme



UPVOTED!


“This battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God,” — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf



UPVOTED!


We had four more similar submissions (including Hitler’s famous quote ‘Humanitarian is the expression of stupidity and cowardice’). They were all also highly rated, receiving way more green than red arrows.

At the most recent count, we had a total of 480 up votes (and rising) against 16 down votes, across eight adapted Nazi comments. It seems the migration debate has evolved to a place where even certified hate speech can pass for popular political opinion!

Mashable has produced a fantastic mythbuster about the migrant crisis; but whatever your views on the solution let’s try and remember we’re dealing with people and keep the debate free of hatred!

https://medium.com/@bestofthemail/i-...l-8996899810b4

[T*]

it's the daily mail, are you even remotely surprised?

[Shaun]

oh look!! the bleeding heart brigade are at it again with another thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah humanity sucks

[Tom4784]

People are ***** and the Daily Mail and their readers are among the worst.

[Samuel.]

Daily Mail comment section is notoriously awful but this is an all time low, and as much we like to just think "it's the Daily Mail what do you expect", it does represent a portion of the population, and to be at a point where propaganda used by the nazis with jew reworded as migrant is approved by that portion is alarming.

[T*]

They're just stupid.. extremely, extremely stupid.

[Livia]

These heroes are exercising their right to "free speech". The Internet gives a platform to the weak the cowardly and the stupid. Almost none of these people would stand up and say that sh1t in person.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

Daily Mail comment section is notoriously awful but this is an all time low, and as much we like to just think "it's the Daily Mail what do you expect", it does represent a portion of the population, and to be at a point where propaganda used by the nazis with jew reworded as migrant is approved by that portion is alarming.

We are given our beliefs by the media. I think Daily Mail falls just behind the Sun in readership.

What should we fear? What should we stop eating? What do we need to do to make our bodies perfect for the beach?

Kiss my a**e. I'm a pretty smart individual, and I'm perfectly capable of judging for myself how things are.

What do you want? Do you prefer a comfy living where those with the most money will tell you how to think / act? Do you need those gadgets? Do you want your personal data stored in a mega-file for everyone? Do you even know it's happening?

Do you want every High Street to look like the next? Do you like the homogenisation we are going through as a society? Are you even happy being fat, or ridiculed for outdated (!) values? Why can't you just be you?

We have just got back into growing fruit and veg, in making clothes, in recycling things like timber...sure, with the help of the internet to share ideas.

But please don't let the media tell you how your life should be.

And please don't let any of these people manipulate you.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Hitler was a very skilled orator and could write populist prose so I'm not surprised if you change the subject matter that it still has impact

Not sure what point you are making tho

[Anaesthesia]

Yes, he was, but he was also heavily publicised. I guess the point I am making is that nobody needs to jump onboard a media frenzy just because it IS a media frenzy, without thinking it through.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Anaesthesia

Yes, he was, but he was also heavily publicised. I guess the point I am making is that nobody needs to jump onboard a media frenzy just because it IS a media frenzy, without thinking it through.

No I meant the OP

[Anaesthesia]

Oh ok

[karezza]

Are you in favour of unlimited, uncontrolled immigration?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by karezza

Are you in favour of unlimited, uncontrolled immigration?

Don't ask sensible question

This is about hating on people to make us feel righteous

[Livia]

Originally Posted by karezza

Are you in favour of unlimited, uncontrolled immigration?

No I am not. Neither am I in favour of inflammatory language and wishes of horrendous death on people trying to get here.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Hitler was a very skilled orator and could write populist prose so I'm not surprised if you change the subject matter that it still has impact

Not sure what point you are making tho

The point is we're headed the same way, what happens when those who feel comfortable expressing these extremist views outnumber the 'bleeding hearts'?

[James]

Internet commenting is often extreme, and is not representative of the wider public's views. People think they can say anything online, often to get a reaction, and they won't be held to account for it.

Look how poisonous Youtube comments or Twitter can be.

[Pete.]

The Daily Mail is infamous for its readers who leave ignorant posts on a largely unmoderated comment section, I'm not surprised at all

[LeatherTrumpet]

DM readers dont want illegal migrants coming here and costing us money shock

newsflash - neither does any other country

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

DM readers dont want illegal migrants coming here and costing us money shock

newsflash - neither does any other country

There's a pretty big gap between;

"recognising the the UK (and the whole of Europe, let's not forget) has an immigration issue that needs tackled"

And...

"Shoot them! Gas them! Drown them like the dogs that they are!"


Don't pretend you don't know that, LT. Don't pretend to be stupid to further a point. It's never worth it in the long term.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by James

Internet commenting is often extreme, and is not representative of the wider public's views. People think they can say anything online, often to get a reaction, and they won't be held to account for it.

Look how poisonous Youtube comments or Twitter can be.

Yes but the demographic is way different and that's what's scary.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's a pretty big gap between;

"recognising the the UK (and the whole of Europe, let's not forget) has an immigration issue that needs tackled"

And...

"Shoot them! Gas them! Drown them like the dogs that they are!"


Don't pretend you don't know that, LT. Don't pretend to be stupid to further a point. It's never worth it in the long term.

and dont pretend to understand how comments online work

how you speak to your mates is not how you speak to your mum

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and dont pretend to understand how comments online work

how you speak to your mates is not how you speak to your mum

Anonymity makes people feel safe to say what they really think as they really think it. I'm not sure what your point is though. That people only post these things because they feel free to express the toxic bull**** that they otherwise try to keep hidden doesn't really make it any better.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by James

Internet commenting is often extreme, and is not representative of the wider public's views. People think they can say anything online, often to get a reaction, and they won't be held to account for it.

Look how poisonous Youtube comments or Twitter can be.

True.

Worryingly though, it's the people you hear actually saying this stuff in the real world. I have heard conversations where people say it, and I find that more disturbing. I don't want to live in a country of hate.

I do want the UK to control immigration, but not because I wish death on any of the people trying to get here.

[lostalex]

such a silly publicity stunt. i can 500 people that would uproot a woman being slapped and chocking on a cock, that doesn't mean they all would do that to a woman though.

they should focus their energy on coming up with a solution to the problem instead of just ridiculing the people that are actually responsible for making policy. if you don't like the policy, come up with a better one. you live in a democracy!

the same people feeling so sorry for the immigrants will also be the first ones complaining about the wages falling because people are willing to do it for less, complaining about losing local culture.

mcdonalds is an immigrant too, but i bet you'd probably protest a mcdonalds opening up on your block forcing out the local burger joint, wouldn't you?