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Niamh. · 20-08-2015, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

i think your idea of marriage is very outdated. it's an idea of marriage made by old men in the church who were ****ing young boys.

Being monogamous to your spouse is an outdated idea? Really? Having an open relationship is fine if both parties know about it, otherwise it's cheating

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

men want more sex

women want candles, cushions and to be listened to without offering a solution

Spoiler:

as a gay man that has lots of straight women friends... trust me, women want more sex too... don't blame it all it on men.
women are just as horny, they are just better at hiding it.

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Being monogamous to your spouse is an outdated idea? Really? Having an open relationship is fine if both parties know about it, otherwise it's cheating

i agree that lying to someone who trusts you is always wrong. i'm saying we need to create relationships where people feel more safe being honest about their desires. relationships where you can be honest about your desires for other people.

don't you think that people should be honest with their partners?

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:00 PM

There are three things that all human beings need, food, sleep, and sex.

For some reason it's totally okay to tell people you are hungry or that you are tired, but is taboo if you say you are horny.

Sex is a basic human need. the same way we get hungry, the same way we get tried, we also get horny.

LeatherTrumpet · 20-08-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

as a gay man that has lots of straight women friends... trust me, women want more sex too... don't blame it all it on men.
women are just as horny, they are just better at hiding it.

You are lucky that you never have to have sex with them

Niamh. · 20-08-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

i agree that lying to someone who trusts you is always wrong. i'm saying we need to create relationships where people feel more safe being honest about their desires. relationships where you can be honest about your desires for other people.

don't you think that people should be honest with their partners?

Of course they should be and like I said if both parties are ok with it then that's fine but I know I wouldn't be happy to share my husband with other people

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course they should be and like I said if both parties are ok with it then that's fine but I know I wouldn't be happy to share my husband with other people

but what if your husband doesn't feel the same way, would you divorce him, just because he needs more sexually?
what if he wants something sexual you won't give but he could get it somewhere else but still love you just as much.

LeatherTrumpet · 20-08-2015, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

but what if your husband doesn't feel the same way, would you divorce him, just because he needs more sexually?
what if he wants something sexual you won't give but he could get it somewhere else but still love you just as much.

neem your husband sounds like a sex maniac

Its time to dump and replace

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You are lucky that you never have to have sex with them

i could give you a million reasons why having sex with women is easier. so don't complain too much. gay sex isn't as easy as you imagine.

but for the record, the blow jobs are great! lol (not to brag, but it's true)

Niamh. · 20-08-2015, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

but what if your husband doesn't feel the same way, would you divorce him, just because he needs more sexually?
what if he wants something sexual you won't give but he could get it somewhere else but still love you just as much.

Yes I would. It's not what I agreed to when I married him and I have no desire to share like that.

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I would. It's not what I agreed to when I married him and I have no desire to share like that.

well i think that's why we need more open take about sexuality in society then, because maybe he didn't feel like he could tell you about all of his sexual needs when you were dating. and maybe lots of men feel ashamed to be honest about their sexual desires.

do you at least agree that we should encourage a more open society when it comes to people expressing their sexual desires?

don;t you think we need to make a society were men can be honest about wanting more sexual partners, instead of automatically assuming that they want monogamy? and also being more free to express their desires for other men.

i don't think most women understand that most men have some bisexual desires.

women are so used to society forcing men to treat them like goddesses, but in truth most men just want to have fun.

Niamh. · 20-08-2015, 12:18 PM

Well then they shouldn't get married in the first place Alex

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well then they shouldn't get married in the first place Alex

but is marriage really about sex? i don't think so. i think loving someone, and being romantically attracted to someone is very different from just sex.

LeatherTrumpet · 20-08-2015, 12:19 PM

lol

alex stop trying to persuade yourself that all straight men could be turned gay

only some can, like marsh

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol

alex stop trying to persuade yourself that all straight men could be turned gay

only some can, like marsh

all straight men can close their eyes! LOL

Niamh. · 20-08-2015, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

but is marriage really about sex? i don't think so. i think loving someone, and being romantically attracted to someone is very different from just sex.

It's not all about sex but sex is certainly a part of it

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's not all about sex but sex is certainly a part of it

what is sex really? it' about that excitement you feel about getting to touch another person al over their body... but after a few times, you've seen it all, some people need the excitement of seeing something new!

that's why men love porn so much, and why porn stars only last a few years, we always want to see something new.

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:25 PM

and LT, remember...

also gay men are willing to do things str8 men can't get from women.

trust me, when you lick below the balls on a str8 guy, he goes wild! cause most str8 guys can't get that from a girl... most girls won't do that.

Niamh. · 20-08-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

what is sex really? it' about that excitement you feel about getting to touch another person al over their body... but after a few times, you've seen it all, some people need the excitement of seeing something new!

that's why men love porn so much, and why porn stars only last a few years, we always want to see something new.

Sex is more than just that to me, it's an intimacy that I only share with my husband, I would hate to think of him being that way with someone else. But there's no solid rule on what sex is or isn't, to me it's obviously a totally different thing to what your idea of it is, doesn't mean either of us are right or wrong but certainly because our ideas on it are so different, it's definitely something that needs to be discussed before any promises are made between couples

LeatherTrumpet · 20-08-2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

and LT, remember...

also gay men are willing to do things str8 men can't get from women.

trust me, when you lick below the balls on a str8 guy, he goes wild! cause most str8 guys can't get that from a girl... most girls won't do that.

yes but a gay guy is still buying candles and cushions

lostalex · 20-08-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sex is more than just that to me, it's an intimacy that I only share with my husband, I would hate to think of him being that way with someone else. But there's no solid rule on what sex is or isn't, to me it's obviously a totally different thing to what your idea of it is, doesn't mean either of us are right or wrong but certainly because our ideas on it are so different, it's definitely something that needs to be discussed before any promises are made between couples

that's very fair. you get to decide what is right for you, and you have a right to expect your partner to be honest with you too. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with monogamy. i'm glad you and your husband are on the same page

unfortunately, some men, and some women, are not so happy in their relationships. and feel like they can't be honest.

i think everyone should just feel conformable being honest, but we do live in a society that makes people feel like they have to lie.

you will admit that our society does pressure people into feeling like they HAVE to be monogamous, right?