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Old 30-08-2015, 11:11 AM #51
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It was the most pathetic warning ever.

Scoop gave the most interesting, considered and intelligent view on the n word that we have seen on tv for a long time.

It was the total opposite of racism, yet he was 'cautioned' like he was being racist!!

Eammon calls Farrah 'nasty' and 'thick' and gets a huge round of applause for his harmful intent.

Scoop has an adult and reasoned conversation about black people reclaiming power in light of the n word and gets cautioned - when there is nothing but GOOD intent in his discussion.

Shows you just how dangerously stupid this show has become when bad intentions are rewarded with applause and good intentions are punished with cautions.

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Did they actually give him a warning though? I thought they just told him to not say that word again
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Did they actually give him a warning though? I thought they just told him to not say that word again
i think it was just a caution, not an official warning. i don't think it counts towards the whole "3 strikes and you're out" rule.

When big brother gives an "official warning" they make it clear and use a totally different tone of voice.
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Old 30-08-2015, 11:59 AM #54
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Yeah you are right, not an official warning, but still he was warned/cautioned whatever when all he was doing was being actively anti-racist with mature debate.

He should be applauded, not punished.
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well no it's not the same thing, because that person you are taking about was using it as a word to describe someone else. Scoop never used the word to describe another person, he was using the word to talk about the word itself in a general context.

Scoop didn't call anyone a ****** or a negro.... he used the word ****** because he was taking about the word ******, he wasn't calling another person a ******.
Neither was Ken though,He was describing a style of music as "negro rythyms".Technically Scoop was actually describing people as ******* when he said white trailer trash people can also be *******.

I don't care about Scoop saying it,It does'nt offend me personally and yes he was just talking about the word itself but i'm just saying that there should be some consistency and BB should not discriminate between different races as far as the rules are concerned.

Supposing in this convo that Scoop was having that he never got that warning but in the same convo a white person had said the word ****** in the same way Scoop did,Totally harmlessly.Should the white person have got a warning?

I think no as i also think in a perfect scenario Scoop should'nt either but white people have previously been warned for it so BB have set there own bar on what words are acceptable and have no choice but to be consistent.

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Yeah you are right, not an official warning, but still he was warned/cautioned whatever when all he was doing was being actively anti-racist with mature debate.

He should be applauded, not punished.
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I think we can all tell the difference between hate speech & a laugh,
If you cant read between the lines then thats your loss but fair to scoop, We all only human regardless of what nationality,
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Neither was Ken though,He was describing a style of music as "negro rythyms".Technically Scoop was actually describing people as ******* when he said white trailer trash people can also be *******.

I don't care about Scoop saying it,It does'nt offend me personally and yes he was just talking about the word itself but i'm just saying that there should be some consistency and BB should not discriminate between different races as far as the rules are concerned.

Supposing in this convo that Scoop was having that he never got that warning but in the same convo a white person had said the word ****** in the same way Scoop did,Totally harmlessly.Should the white person have got a warning?

I think no as i also think in a perfect scenario Scoop should'nt either but white people have previously been warned for it so BB have set there own bar on what words are acceptable and have no choice but to be consistent.

if, like scoop said, the word can be used for trailer trash and he used it against Austin or Farrah (because clearly they kinda are...) then i would agree with him getting a warning. but when he was only using the word to have a meta discussion about the word in general, i think it's BS.
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if, like scoop said, the word can be used for trailer trash and he used it against Austin or Farrah (because clearly they kinda are...) then i would agree with him getting a warning. but when he was only using the word to have a meta discussion about the word in general, i think it's BS.
Equally, by that definition, Ken was having a meta discussion too. I personally had no issue with Ken or Scoop, neither had the intent to offend, which is what its all about at the end of the day.
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Equally, by that definition, Ken was having a meta discussion too. I personally had no issue with Ken or Scoop, neither had the intent to offend, which is what its all about at the end of the day.
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Not agreeing with your point is not ignorant,It is a difference of opinion.
No you're completing ignoring what I'm trying to say, and simply saying the same practiced sentence over and over. You need to respond to my point properly, not just repeat your point again. That's not how debate works.
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Equally, by that definition, Ken was having a meta discussion too. I personally had no issue with Ken or Scoop, neither had the intent to offend, which is what its all about at the end of the day.
i'd agree with that. i don't think ken was being racist. i think he said some racially insensitive things though.
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I wish everyone would just never use the n word again
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Utter bs of a warning. After past housemates been getting away with murder in the house
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I wish everyone would just never use the n word again
Sorry its part of life now. People use that to say hello or wassup etc
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Sorry its part of life now. People use that to say hello or wassup etc
up to them, people who use it get no respect from me and I hate the word being used by rappers....its an ugly word, let it go
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I thought it was an interesting conversation and the fact he got cautioned for it just proves that there really is no such thing as freedom of speech.
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