[Psylocke]

Does it actually Matter????????

Both are bad in my book,and both sould be a big deal.

That said ive seen plenty of direct and indirect Rasism,and undercurrents.

[ttw]

Obviously they are both bad, but not as bad as each other, and I don't think the term racist should be put to someone on the basis of what we have seen in the BB house.

Ignorant , yes , but that is different to racist.

[Ruth]

It's bullying - but you are quite right, neither is acceptable.

[Jay]

I would say bullying but i can also see why people think it's racism, both are bad and not acceptable i think if it was racism something would of been done.

[S2]

I can think of 2 points in the show where racist filled comments were made. And it is bullying, no doubt

[Razmataz]

It's bullying, nothing more, nothing less, I don't condone it but I accept it.

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by Jigsaw©
It's bullying, nothing more, nothing less, I don't condone it but I accept it.

i wouldnt say nothing more,nothing less,because shilpas race has come into the bullying a couple of times

[Razmataz]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
I can think of 2 points in the show where racist filled comments were made. And it is bullying, no doubt

This is not my opinion but isn't racism.
Taking the mic out of her colour/religion.
Take the mic out of her country/status.

The haven't done this.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Jigsaw©
It's bullying, nothing more, nothing less, I don't condone it but I accept it.

The point being that bullying should never be acceptable.

[on_mercury]

Its bullying it cant be racism as theres only one race the human race.

[Razmataz]

Originally posted by Ruth

The point being that bullying should never be acceptable.

My phrase of accept meaning "I accept it happens in other places other than a house on tv."

[ttw]

Originally posted by on_mercury
Its bullying it cant be racism as theres only one race the human race.

lol

[Sibley1234]

no offence but if shilpa was white no one would even say that there was bullying in the house but because shes coloured everyones saying its racism!
WTH is up with you everyone?

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by Sibley1234
no offence but if shilpa was white no one would even say that there was bullying in the house but because shes coloured everyones saying its racism!
WTH is up with you everyone?

Ive had a problem the way housemates have been bullied in the past.As have many many others,and i have made complaints

it wasnt shilpas colour that got the most notice,i think it was her celebrity.

[Sophii3x]

I'd say it's bullying
But sometimes they have been taking the piss of her coulture

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Sibley1234
no offence but if shilpa was white no one would even say that there was bullying in the house but because shes coloured everyones saying its racism!
WTH is up with you everyone?

People would say it was bullying whatever colour she is. Not everyone is saying it's racism - I personally don't believe it's racism either, but it is definitely bullying.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Sibley1234
no offence but if shilpa was white no one would even say that there was bullying in the house but because shes coloured everyones saying its racism!
WTH is up with you everyone?

Whether it's racism or not is not the issue. It is most definitely a case of acute and extreme ignorance towards somebody who's only offence is nothing more than being different from the people attacking her. It's ignorance which leads to prejudice which leads to racism.

[albie]

Originally posted by Jigsaw©
It's bullying, nothing more, nothing less, I don't condone it but I accept it.

That's a horrible thing to say. Can we bully you then?

[albie]

If it was Jermaine and Shilpa being so nasty I'm sure you would not accept it. But because it's man faced Jo, your idol...

[The_Hitman]

Its simple. Its BOTH racism AND bullying.

The problem is, people are playing down the racism because the bullying is more prevelent, trying to claim the racism doesnt even exist.

[ttw]

Originally posted by GRiT

Whether it's racism or not is not the issue. It is most definitely a case of acute and extreme ignorance towards somebody who's only offence is nothing more than being different from the people attacking her. It's ignorance which leads to prejudice which leads to racism.

But I don't think it is fair to say an ignorant person is a racist.

If someone is un/misinformed and unaware in a subject their judgements will be wrong but it doesn't make them racist.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by on_mercury
Its bullying it cant be racism as theres only one race the human race.

If only these idiots in the house could accept the world like you do.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ttw

But I don't think it is fair to say an ignorant person is a racist.

If someone is un/misinformed and unaware in a subject their judgements will be wrong but it doesn't make them racist.

Ignorance leads to racism. It's a fact. If somebody has been misimformed then it is up to them to listen and learn not to judge and belittle. I again go back to the person who pointed out that Shilpas culture is as much a mystery to Jermaine and Dirk as it is to Team ignorant. However, they are reacting in a different and more acceptable way.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GRiT

Ignorance leads to racism. It's a fact. If somebody has been misimformed then it is up to them to listen and learn not to judge and belittle. I again go back to the person who pointed out that Shilpas culture is as much a mystery to Jermaine and Dirk as it is to Team ignorant. However, they are reacting in a different and more acceptable way.

That's the thing with some of them in the house they just make assumptions based on ignorant views they already hold and come out with the first thing in they think of rather than actually learn to listen about find out about people's cultures.

[ttw]

Originally posted by GRiT

Ignorance leads to racism. It's a fact. If somebody has been misimformed then it is up to them to listen and learn not to judge and belittle. I again go back to the person who pointed out that Shilpas culture is as much a mystery to Jermaine and Dirk as it is to Team ignorant. However, they are reacting in a different and more acceptable way.

Yes ignorance can lead to racism. But if you have no knowledge about another culture, and all you've seen is possibly from films or random bits you hear now and then your judgement is going to be misinformed. If we are unaware of something we automatically make assumptions on what we do know. She doesn't know what she is saying is wrong but she doesn't know what is right either. Yes, it is up to us to listen and learn and that is the best thing to do, but just because she hasn't it does not make her racist.


One of the comments Danielle has been referred to as being racist is when she has asked after a discussion about Shilpa fingering their food if it was in India or China that they ate with their hands... Now most people know that this is a stupid thing to say , but due to her ignorance she doesn't know that what she is saying isn't true and it is probably something she may have heard somewhere or seen somewhere, she also said she thought Winston Churchill was the first black president of America, again another stupid thing to say but not at all racist.