[Ninastar]

Yes I know it sounds crazy because straight people have never faced 'oppression', but is it not just as bad to make fun of someone for being who they are, no matter what their 'kind' has faced in the bad?

I get the feeling that a lot of people believe that it's worse to discriminate against someone who is part of some sort of minority, rather than it being awful to discriminate at all.

I've seen so many comments (mainly on tumblr and here) saying things like 'LOL straight people', but if you changed it to something like 'LOL black people' or 'LOL Trannies', people would have an absolute fit.

Is it just me who thinks that there is a complete double standard when it comes to poking fun at people?

What I don't understand is when people praise equality, but then laugh at other people for being who they are, or they say that a person from X background isn't as important as another, because they haven't faced the same challenges...

IMO, we are all as awful/brilliant as each other. To tell someone they can't have an opinion on something because they are 'straight' or anything else that hasn't faced as much 'oppression' is just wrong and completely hypocritical. It's almost like saying they aren't worth an opinion.

[Daniel.]

Absolutely not.

[Pete.]

I don't believe it does tbh

[JoshBB]

I'm gonna repeat what I've said before - to discriminate, you need power, privilege, and prejudice.

Only straight people have privelege if you are speaking in terms of sexual orientation. So, no. It doesn't exist. Being discriminated against on a wide scale is not the same as "omg! susan said she doesnt like straight people". Nowhere in the world are straight people killed or arrested, let's put it at that.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I'm gonna repeat what I've said before - to discriminate, you need power, privilege, and prejudice.

Only straight people have privelege if you are speaking in terms of sexual orientation. So, no. It doesn't exist. Being discriminated against on a wide scale is not the same as "omg! susan said she doesnt like straight people". Nowhere in the world are straight people killed or arrested, let's put it at that.

So you think it's worse to hate someone for being gay, than being straight?

[LeatherTrumpet]

lets get one thing straight

If 95% of the population was gay

by golly would it exist

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Chaos

So you think it's worse to hate someone for being gay, than being straight?

Yes. Google 'false equivalency'.

[GLENN BILL BB7]

I don't think it exists as its considered 'Normal' to be straight.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lets get one thing straight

If 95% of the population was gay

by golly would it exist

If the straight people in this hypothetical scenario were the ones who could not reproduce, and were subject to criminalisation in aspects of the world, then yes.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

I'm gonna repeat what I've said before - to discriminate, you need power, privilege, and prejudice.

Only straight people have privelege if you are speaking in terms of sexual orientation. So, no. It doesn't exist. Being discriminated against on a wide scale is not the same as "omg! susan said she doesnt like straight people". Nowhere in the world are straight people killed or arrested, let's put it at that.

But discrimination and bigotry aren't exclusively the same thing, people can hold prejudiced opinions against certain people without active discrimination coming into play.

And all corners of society can be the victim of bigoted views. Does widespread discrimination happen? No, it doesn't. But does the heterophobic mindset exist in some? I've no doubt that it absolutely does.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

If the straight people in this hypothetical scenario were the ones who could not reproduce, and were subject to criminalisation in aspects of the world, then yes.

its the same scenario of blacks and whites changed over in USA


In school children naturally pick on the weak. Its wired into our genes

look at the animal world


Its a very human trait for the many to batter the few

[GLENN BILL BB7]

... So many Big words.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

But discrimination and bigotry aren't exclusively the same thing, people can hold prejudiced opinions against certain people without active discrimination coming into play.

And all corners of society can be the victim of bigoted views. Does widespread discrimination happen? No, it doesn't. But does the heterophobic mindset exist in some? I've no doubt that it absolutely does.

Thank you. Very well said.

[Firewire]

I don't think it exists but I've never seen any cases of it that have made me think otherwise.

[RichardG]

I suppose it's not a 'thing' like homophobia is but to break down the word it would literally mean to be prejudice against heterosexual people and I'm sure there are some people out there who hold views like that. I guess individual people can be heterophobic but looking on a broader scale heterophobia doesn't exist In the same way homophobia does.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yes. Google 'false equivalency'.

Put aside the history of homophobia for a moment, in this hypothetical situation that someone hated people simply for being straight, that would be no better or different than the opposite.

The fact that heterosexuals haven't had a history of oppression for their sexual orientation is irrelevant there, any instance of being prejudiced against someone for being either straight or gay should surely both equally be frowned upon.

Now if the discussion was simply about the experiences gay people and straight people have had in relation to this and the impact on society in general, then yes there is a big difference between the two. But there isn't a difference between someone simply disliking others based on their sexuality.

[Smithy]

No

[bitontheslide]

it will exist for sure given the correct circumstances. As to whether it is a widespread phenomenon, I would say no. Discrimination is always possible where there is a minority group

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it will exist for sure given the correct circumstances. As to whether it is a widespread phenomenon, I would say no.

Precisely my thoughts, something not being a massive widespread issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Precisely my thoughts, something not being a massive widespread issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.

[Kyle]

Julie Bindel has some pretty interesting views on heterosexual men but I just find it hilariously sad.

But can't say I've ever faced any discrimination for my sexuality personally. I was called a CIS creep on Facebook once but I can't take issue with that. I am cisgendered and I am a creep

[Smithy]

Homophobia is based on a system of oppression, straight people have never been oppressed you can't be heterophobic it's dumb AF to think so

Gay people are bullied, thrown out of their homes, attacked and murdered but who cares because they're making jokes about straight people on the internet

[Firewire]

You can hate straight people, sure, but why would you? I mean I can understand why people hate minority groups from the way they've been brought up and taught but in later life I don't think you can really be "heterophobic" because you can't really hate the entire straight group considering your parents must've been.

[Toy Soldier]

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Also, yes it probably exists, and yes you can discriminate against non-minorities, and yes it is still bad. There is literally zero logic in any argument to the contrary. If any minority group thinks that "privileged" people possibly being discriminated against someone lessens their own struggle then,

A) They are wrong, and

B) I don't care.

[Jay.]

i have no idea it's not something i've really thought about before