[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

You decide

[waterhog]

I am not sure who is right or wrong but I think the bus driver needs retraining on how to explain to customers when something is wrong.

but I can see if she has that every day all the time it must get tiring.

[Samuel.]

Both.

[Northern Monkey]

Did'nt hear her say anything racist tbh.However i could'nt really understand what she was on about.....


Bloody foreigner

[user104658]

Dunno, all I know is that I really want to see the ticket so that I can decide who is right... It's going to bug me.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Youtube video

You decide

She is OK

[Lostie!]

How is she racist?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

How is she racist?

because its 2015 and she is shouting at someone who is not white and thus must be a racist

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

How is she racist?

I guess that she feels the need to throw in the "Vot choo doing in sveden anyways if choo don't want follow svedish rules??" bit. I guess it is a sort of casual racism but, also, I think the guy making the video was probably baiting.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I guess that she feels the need to throw in the "Vot choo doing in sveden anyways if choo don't want follow svedish rules??" bit. I guess it is a sort of casual racism but, also, I think the guy making the video was probably baiting.

Yeah the guy was purposely being super irritating and even filmed and uploaded the incident to the internet, he clearly wanted a reaction. It sort of reminds me of the people on youtube who break the law then when the police come they whip out their camera and start demanding the specific law they broke along with the precise dictionary definition of it. So annoying, the guy didn't have the right ticket and wouldn't pay for a new one yet refused to let up, sometimes people say things they don't mean when others are behaving like that.

[Marsh.]

She wasn't racist. He was baiting her for a reaction and filming her to capture it.

He was whining about sweden and she was asking well, why come here if you don't want to follow rules. Which is a fair point.

[empire]

I know a few swedish people in collage, who have said that the immigrants there are very rude, and they don't want to intergrate or make friends with swedish people, and the people of sweden, have had enough of them, and don't want anymore high immigration, what's the point when more will not want to intergrate, this guy thought he would get special treatment beacuse he is not swedish, she had the right not to bite her tongue,

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I guess that she feels the need to throw in the "Vot choo doing in sveden anyways if choo don't want follow svedish rules??" bit. I guess it is a sort of casual racism but, also, I think the guy making the video was probably baiting.

I don't think that's an example of racism of any kind. She said nothing derogatory about another race, simply asked him a question because he wasn't accepting something that she explained to him numerous times.

And this trend of people secretly filming others to post online and publically humiliate them is really unsavoury.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I don't think that's an example of racism of any kind. She said nothing derogatory about another race, simply asked him a question because he wasn't accepting something that she explained to him numerous times.

Hmmmm she suggested that he was being awkward or didn't understand the rules because he was from another country. Also with an implication that if he doesn't like the rules he shouldn't be living there. It's not straight-up racism but it's also not NOT racism.

I mean... I encounter irritating people who don't like or understand the rules / don't think the rules apply to them every single day. 99% of them are British born and bred. It really has absolutely nothing to do with where they're from and as such, she didn't need to "go there" at all. Also, you can pretty much see that she holds off on saying it for a while before eventually blurting it out which makes it obvious that she knows herself that she shouldn't have been saying it.

And this trend of people secretly filming others to post online and publically humiliate them is really unsavoury.

I definitely agree with that, though.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hmmmm she suggested that he was being awkward or didn't understand the rules because he was from another country. Also with an implication that if he doesn't like the rules he shouldn't be living there. It's not straight-up racism but it's also not NOT racism.

I mean... I encounter irritating people who don't like or understand the rules / don't think the rules apply to them every single day. 99% of them are British born and bred. It really has absolutely nothing to do with where they're from and as such, she didn't need to "go there" at all. Also, you can pretty much see that she holds off on saying it for a while before eventually blurting it out which makes it obvious that she knows herself that she shouldn't have been saying it.

I totally agree that him being from another country was irrelevant but I don't believe she had any racist intent in anything she said. Perhaps she assumed the issue was based on different systems in different countries because of how hard it was to get him to grasp what she was telling him a dozen times, I don't think that was reflective of her being a racist person and some people need to stop flinging that word around whenever they feel like it.

And to be honest, if we're talking about what people "don't need" to do, you yourself didn't need to mock her accent.

[Will.]

She sounds ghetto

[Kizzy]

I was moaned at in Barcelona for not understanding my train ticket, they must get so sick of tourists in some places holding up buses and such. She just looked like she'd had a long day

[the truth]

what a dumb question...how are we meant to know who is in the wrong here?as usual we don't even know whats going on, we don't know the full context weve walked into an argument halfway through....

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

what a dumb question...how are we meant to know who is in the wrong here?as usual we don't even know whats going on, we don't know the full context weve walked into an argument halfway through....

Yes LT
left it that way

Sign Of The Times

[Ammi]

..that's a grumpy Swedish bus driver...I agree with TS, she was being casually racist but it looked like he was goading and filming../ hate this 'name and shame' thing on Youtube atm and makes one as bad as the other..(of the thing being shamed..) imo....it also I think dilutes issues, rather than highlight, which is sad...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's a grumpy Swedish bus driver...I agree with TS, she was being casually racist but it looked like he was goading and filming../ hate this 'name and shame' thing on Youtube atm and makes one as bad as the other..(of the thing being shamed..) imo....it also I think dilutes issues, rather than highlight, which is sad...

She wants a wee

[Ammi]

....

[Ammi]

..I'm going to say that to Josy the next time she makes one of her to the point and no nonsense posts...you need a wee Josy..

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's a grumpy Swedish bus driver...I agree with TS, she was being casually racist but it looked like he was goading and filming../ hate this 'name and shame' thing on Youtube atm and makes one as bad as the other..(of the thing being shamed..) imo....it also I think dilutes issues, rather than highlight, which is sad...

Exactly. It just highlights that we're all capable of saying things we'll regret when we're tired or angry or frustrated or.... in arista's mind, need a wee.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

She wasn't racist. He was baiting her for a reaction and filming her to capture it.

He was whining about sweden and she was asking well, why come here if you don't want to follow rules. Which is a fair point.

I agree.