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arista · 12-10-2015, 05:48 AM

Move Out of London

And Go Up North
some homes are just £10 or £100 to buy
as its a Former Council Home.

Do It Up Yourself (keeping cost low)
Get Broadband and SkyHD in.

Get Bolted Door Locks

And 24/7 Cameras

Feel The Force

Ammi · 12-10-2015, 05:55 AM

..why not those who live locally already buy the £10 and £100 homes or the government buy them for the homeless.../that would work better I think...

...have you got a link to those actual house prices Arista..?..

arista · 12-10-2015, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..why not those who live locally already buy the £10 and £100 homes or the government buy them for the homeless.../that would work better I think...

...have you got a link to those actual house prices Arista..?..

No as they will not use the Bog
Not Do it Up etc

We Do Not Want them Ammi
you Slick Teacher

Ammi · 12-10-2015, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

No as they will not use the Bog
Not Do it Up etc

We Do Not Want them Ammi
you Slick Teacher

..because they don't have homes and bogs might be the reason ..and they could be given help and grants to renovate etc../learn skills to help them so they have homes and jobs, you slick home-owner/or renter...

arista · 12-10-2015, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..because they don't have homes and bogs might be the reason ..and they could be given help and grants to renovate etc../learn skills to help them so they have homes and jobs, you slick home-owner/or renter...

No I mean
they would just sit in the corner with the Booze
and Not Do the Place up

We Do Not Want Them
we want Good Home Owners that Respect
their Homes.

Ammi · 12-10-2015, 06:16 AM

..if they're respected then maybe they'll respect their homes, Arista ..and all will be utter bliss...

kirklancaster · 12-10-2015, 07:54 AM

'Always buy the worst property on the best street' rather than the 'best property on the worst street' is a Property developers adage which should be adhered to,

No 'dreamy-eyed' couple can gentrify a terrible slum street in a terrible slum area no matter how beautifully they transform their home. Properties in parts of the North East and the North which are offered at prices from .50p each to £10,000, are that price for a reason - a very ominous reason.

Anyone tempted by these 'cut price' properties with a view on owner occupation will NOT remain in occupation long, and will LOSE money.

Anyone tempted by these 'cut price' properties with a view to 'Buy-To-Let' will discover that the only type of tenants which they can attract for their brand new refurbished show home, are the 'druggies and thuggies' who will NOT pay rent, and who WILL wreck your 'Investment' property far more quickly than it took you to renovate it, before 'doing a moonlight' owing you thousands, and leaving you with an unliveable property in an unliveable area.

The only way that all these boarded up empty properties can be renovated and the area 'gentrified' is if:

A wealthy Private Developer purchases and renovates entire rows of hundreds of houses, then renovates them to a good standard including gardens and communal/public greenspaces, or if the Local Council does the same.

Kizzy · 12-10-2015, 08:05 AM

Buy to let in those areas has been a massive fail due to slum landlords taking housing benefit and not maintaining the properties to a decent standard. The tenancies are short term and not renewed if the tenant makes a fuss.
The idea a few years ago was to allow those with a job and some savings as well as a renovation plan to access homes that had fallen into a state of disrepair.
This was a good idea for community regeneration, I would be interested to see if it's working.

arista · 12-10-2015, 08:12 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-street.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Poundland.html

Old links I have posted before but gives you a idea

arista · 12-10-2015, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

'Always buy the worst property on the best street' rather than the 'best property on the worst street' is a Property developers adage which should be adhered to,

No 'dreamy-eyed' couple can gentrify a terrible slum street in a terrible slum area no matter how beautifully they transform their home. Properties in parts of the North East and the North which are offered at prices from .50p each to £10,000, are that price for a reason - a very ominous reason.

Anyone tempted by these 'cut price' properties with a view on owner occupation will NOT remain in occupation long, and will LOSE money.

Anyone tempted by these 'cut price' properties with a view to 'Buy-To-Let' will discover that the only type of tenants which they can attract for their brand new refurbished show home, are the 'druggies and thuggies' who will NOT pay rent, and who WILL wreck your 'Investment' property far more quickly than it took you to renovate it, before 'doing a moonlight' owing you thousands, and leaving you with an unliveable property in an unliveable area.

The only way that all these boarded up empty properties can be renovated and the area 'gentrified' is if:

A wealthy Private Developer purchases and renovates entire rows of hundreds of houses, then renovates them to a good standard including gardens and communal/public greenspaces, or if the Local Council does the same.

No its one home per person
Fair is Fair Kirk

arista · 12-10-2015, 08:16 AM

"Anyone tempted by these 'cut price' properties with a view on owner occupation will NOT remain in occupation long, and will LOSE money."

You Negative Git

What If They Are Self Employed

kirklancaster · 12-10-2015, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Buy to let in those areas has been a massive fail due to slum landlords taking housing benefit and not maintaining the properties to a decent standard. The tenancies are short term and not renewed if the tenant makes a fuss.
The idea a few years ago was to allow those with a job and some savings as well as a renovation plan to access homes that had fallen into a state of disrepair.
This was a good idea for community regeneration, I would be interested to see if it's working.

Yes - Slum Landlord's ARE a massive problem in ALL areas, but THAT is the fault of the Local Authorities who ALLOW such a situation to develop AND continue. These bastards should be heavily fined for a first offence, then houses TAKEN FROM them and banned from ever being a landlord thereafter.

They are part of the Housing Benefit fraud which I keep railing about, with numerous 'individual' Landlords pocketing MULTI-MILLIONS of pounds from the Housing Benefits for non-existent properties, garages, 10-to-a single room breaches and a host more, but the areas I was referring to do not attract these types of landlord because there is NO money to be made in them.

I was trying to caution anyone on here who feels that buying a dilapidated terrace house in Liverpool, or Burnley for example, to seriously think twice, and I was not trying to make 'Political Capital'.

There ARE success stories with such "Two For A Pound" Council 'Giveaway' schemes, where SUFFICIENT numbers of decent people purchased such run down properties that the ENTIRE are WAS gentrified and property prices escalated by 30 MILLION PER CENT over less than 10 years as a result, but these are few and far between and the average naive purchaser will usually end up having his/her fingers burnt.

In any event, such 'success' stories do nothing but advocate the cause of Capitalism, and do not help ease any 'Housing Crisis' or alleviate the plight of the low paid or no paid.

It is Councils who should be borrowing the money if necessary to gentrify these areas. Or better still stop wasting rate payers money on junkets and corrupt practices then use the money saved to do so.

kirklancaster · 12-10-2015, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

"Anyone tempted by these 'cut price' properties with a view on owner occupation will NOT remain in occupation long, and will LOSE money."

You Negative Git

What If They Are Self Employed

This has nothing to do with a person's type of employment Arista. I KNOW a lot of these areas from personal experience.

In parts of Burnley, there are streets after streets of once thoroughly nice stone built mill workers cottages, which since the demise of the Lancashire textile industry, have become diapidated boarded up and empty save for squatting junkies. The ONLY way to even set about renovating one of these properties is if you are pepared to live there 24/7 while you are renovating otherwise that Central Heating boiler you finished installing at 4 pm will have been uninstalled and gone by 5.pm once you have left the site.

You will also need a loaded shotgun or samurai sword and also have to be prepared to use it when the local gangs come around - believe me.