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Old 30-10-2015, 04:05 AM #1
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Police are to get the power to view the web browsing history of everyone in the country.

Home Secretary Theresa May will announce the plans when she introduces the Government's new surveillance bill in the House of Commons on Wednesday.

The Telegraph understands the new powers for the police will form part of the new bill.

It would make it a legal requirement for communications companies to retain all the web browsing history of customers for 12 months in case the spy agencies or police need to access them.


Police would be able to access specific web addresses visited by customers.

The new powers would allow the police to seize details of the website and searches being made by people they wanted to investigate.

They will still need to apply for judicial approval to be able to access the content of the websites.

Mrs May previously told the Commons enforcement agencies needed more powersto do their jobs effectively.


“I've said many times before that it is not possible to debate the balance between privacy and security, including the rights and wrongs of intrusive powers and the oversight arrangements that govern them without also considering the threats that we face as a country," she told MPs.

"Those threats remain considerable and they are evolving.

"They include not just terrorism from overseas and home-grown in the UK, but also industrial, military and state espionage.

"They include not just organised criminality, but also the proliferation of once physical crimes online, such as child sexual exploitation. And the technological challenges that that brings.

"In the face of such threats we have a duty to ensure that the agencies whose job it is to keep us safe have the powers they need to do the job."

David Davis MP told The Times there is "no proven need" to retain the data for a year.

Previous plans to introduce the measure in the so-called snooper's charter in 2013 were blocked by the Liberal Democrats in the Coalition.

Writing in the Telegraph previously, former deputy prime minister Nick Clegg warned that Britain would be “setting a worrying international precedent” if plans for the massive database of people’s internet and phone usage went ahead.

The Security Service, along with MI6 and GCHQ, has previously warned MPs that the ability to combat terrorism would be severely hampered without the powers.

Under the plans, telecoms and internet service providers would be paid to log their customers’ emails, internet use and other correspondence so it could be easily searched by security officials.

Data would be held for 12 months and access granted to the police, the National Crime Agency, the intelligence agencies and HM Revenue and Customs.

Previously a poll by YouGov for Big Brother Watch found almost three-quarters of people did not trust that the data would be kept secure.

It comes as David Cameron, the Prime Minister, announced moves to strengthen its treaty with America to ensure Internet companies based there hand over requested data on suspects.

Some of the largest companies have been increasingly reluctant to supply customer communications in the wake of the claims of mass surveillance programmes by former CIA contractor Edward Snowden



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After all the recent hacking that's been going on and how easy it seemingly is to get past companies like TalkTalk's security this is a bad idea and will hopefully be blocked again.
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Is that not invasion of privacy?
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this is a good move but I feel she should go one step further and add to the bill and put all mp's expenses online every time they add to it so we can name and shame them each time and instantly.
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Is that not invasion of privacy?

Yes It is
But do want a Terrorist Attack to go on
with hundreds murdered


Isis trying to do a UK 9/11

Thanks to Saudi Arabia
MI5 found out the last attackers in London
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..a huge focus in schools atm is 'Prevent'...how to identify vulnerable children ..(and others in society..)..who may be perfectly profiled for radicalisation...we don't have to fear terrorist attacks from IS..the attacks have already been made and engulfed/encouraged with paranoia and suspicion ...
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I am a present not wholly in favour of this, I do support fully the opening up of any opportunities to search and find any terrorist related activity.

However, I wouldn't have trusted the last Labour govt to get this right and I for sure would never in any shape or form trust this govt to do much right at all.

I would hope this will be handled sensitively and that very strong regulations are placed on the Police too as to what they search and more to the point why.
Everyone should have the right to their privacy of details and if doing nothing illegal, as to what they do too,on the internet or otherwise.
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"Those threats remain considerable and they are evolving.

"They include not just terrorism from overseas and home-grown in the UK, but also industrial, military and state espionage.


If that's the case, then why has our ministry of defence been cut by 20 percent and why has this ministry been told to prepare for further reductions of 20 to 40 percent. Why since 2010 are our armed forces being downsized, our military capabilities slashed and our economic interests put way ahead of any international security.

I call bollox on this one.

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I don't care about this really, the police haven't got the time to search Joe Bloggs internet history, if it is used as a tool to stop crime then great. Every time we look at something on the net we can be tracked at any rate whether that be by the internet provider, google et al, forum admin etc, so adding in the police I am really not bothered.
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The cops will never get any real work done - what with all those zillion man hours of porn to sift through.
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What are we rebelling about exactly, Sainsbury's snooping on our shopping habits?
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Take away the "th" and it sounds like some sort of extremist "buddy programme"...
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They're only doing this to frighten people about a "terrorist attack" and also to distract people from the fact that this party want peoples Tax Credits removed, the fact that they want to bring Fox Hunting back, and the fact that the PM ****ed a dead Pig allegedly.
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So to make their job of trying to catch terrorists before they do something easier they're going to invade the privacy of everybody with a computer?.. I don't see the logic, it's like some sick thriller film, what happens when they inevitably get hacked? there are a lot of people out there more intelligent that these people will ever be, if they get into this 'system' - I'm using that term very loosely- then they'd have everybody's private information surely? by doing this they'd only be opening themselves up to more trouble, why don't they just focus on what they're trying to do and be do better at it, rather than becoming some sort of other being to make their life easier, it's a stupid idea which hopefully won't come to fruition.
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And that's just your history right, Kirk?

I don't really have a problem with this. It seems like a big invasion of privacy because it's something we're not used to, but that's only because the internet world is still a relatively new thing, and it's just a case of law makers catching up with a changing society.
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How can we use threats like terrorism for getting a law like this passed when our government have spent the past five years cutting back hard on our defences. Our government have made it blatantly clear from the alarming decline in our national defence system, that they protect our country with a large pinch of salt and a big dose of complacency.

Because of the above ^ I find it strange that the Government are suddenly rushing through new legislation without appropriate public and parliamentary scrutiny. Why are they ignoring the ECJ ruling? No other country within the EU has the authority to snoop and retain public data so why does Britain need to? Does Britain really have more terrorists and paedophiles? like MP David Davies says, its a theatrical emergency where three party leaders made this deal in private, behind closed doors where nobody could hear them.

Is this new law even legal? Steve Peers, professor of EU law and human rights law at the University of Essex http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/...tion-bill.html
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When have petty considerations like that ever bothered them? Take this recent tax credits nonsense, for instance. "Hmph! Blocked by the House of Lords? Well... we must immediately look into changing the rules so that that can't happen again!"

Not to mention their Gerrymandering attempts.
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I don't have a problem with it.
Did I read it wrong or isn't it just when you visit certain websites you will be spied on?
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When have petty considerations like that ever bothered them? Take this recent tax credits nonsense, for instance. "Hmph! Blocked by the House of Lords? Well... we must immediately look into changing the rules so that that can't happen again!"

Not to mention their Gerrymandering attempts.
Ditto, What else should we expect from autocrats?
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