[Gusto Brunt]

He served just two years in jail, and that was only because his first sentence was increased because even that was lenient.

You couldn't make it up. An old pervert molesting more than 13 young girls as young as 9 years old, for decades, gets just 2 years imprisonment. That's only one more year than for not paying your TV license.

Is a child's innocence really worth so very little?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/paedophile...150329240.html

[JoshBB]

Abhorrent.. whoever made this decision should be sacked.

[LeatherTrumpet]

he should have been shot in the back of his head and his carcass immediately incinerated

why we go to the bother with some people I dont know, this perversion exists and those who participate should be executed swiftly and cheaply

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

he should have been shot in the back of his head and his carcass immediately incinerated

why we go to the bother with some people I dont know, this perversion exists and those who participate should be executed swiftly and cheaply

Ah yes.. state-sponsored murder.. that'll sure teach people to stick to the rules!!!

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Ah yes.. state-sponsored murder.. that'll sure teach people to stick to the rules!!!

You cannot teach a paedophile to stick to rules as their sexual proclivity lives outside the "rules"

[Gusto Brunt]

Not only does he sicken me but the so called 'justice' system stinks.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

You cannot teach a paedophile to stick to rules as their sexual proclivity lives outside the "rules"

My point exactly. How can we tell someone to live by the law if we're going to kill those who don't - which would mean the government breaking the same rules it set out?

Life Sentences exist for perverts like this man.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

My point exactly. How can we tell someone to live by the law if we're going to kill those who don't - which would mean the government breaking the same rules it set out?

Life Sentences exist for perverts like this man.

No because the execution by the state would be legal

me shooting him would not

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

No because the execution by the state would be legal

me shooting him would not

Murder is murder, regardless of who does it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Murder is murder, regardless of who does it.

and our soldiers are murderers?

[arista]

Yes he got Lucky.


At Least he can no longer rape children



And his Wife stands with him.

[Jamie89]

OMG I never knew this...

"The court was limited to sentencing according to the law at the time of the offence"

This is disgraceful. With something like paedophilia especially, it shouldn't matter when it was committed. He should be sentenced in accordance with the laws at the time of sentencing, based on our current understanding of the crime. Not outdated laws that were changed for good reason! The message here is that he's partly excused for his actions because what? Society at that time was partly to blame? He's as much of a pervert as anyone committing paedophilia now under our current laws and the sentence should have reflected that.

[Livia]

He was released in accordance with English law. No one is "to blame".

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

He was released in accordance with English law. No one is "to blame".

Yes Very True
Livia

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Livia

He was released in accordance with English law. No one is "to blame".

Why is sentencing based on the law at the time of the crime rather than the time of sentencing though Livia? I don't understand the logic of that, at least not when it comes to things like paedophilia.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Sleighmie

Why is sentencing based on the law at the time of the crime rather than the time of sentencing though Livia? I don't understand the logic of that, at least not when it comes to things like paedophilia.

It shouldn't be but it is sadly and it seems the law stays in its archaic trap.

It annoys me when I see people who have committed financial crimes often serving far longer sentences than those with crimes like this, who commit crimes on children and those who even murder or maim people.

Fill the prisons with such people who have the violent tendencies and don't clog them them up with those who are not violent in any way,.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Sleighmie

Why is sentencing based on the law at the time of the crime rather than the time of sentencing though Livia? I don't understand the logic of that, at least not when it comes to things like paedophilia.

Because a trial could be delayed while a law was altered to change the punishment for the crime. So, basically to avoid corruption.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It shouldn't be but it is sadly and it seems the law stays in its archaic trap.

It annoys me when I see people who have committed financial crimes often serving far longer sentences than those with crimes like this, who commit crimes on children and those who even murder or maim people.

Fill the prisons with such people who have the violent tendencies and don't clog them them up with those who are not violent in any way,.

Couldn't agree more!

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

Because a trial could be delayed while a law was altered to change the punishment for the crime. So, basically to avoid corruption.

I never really thought about that tbh. I don't know a LOT about the criminal justice system so at risk of making myself sound stupid lol, would it really be likely that that would happen? I mean surely it would be obvious if that was happening? And regardless, for crimes that were committed a long time ago, such as this one, sentencing based on the laws at the time of the crime doesn't really fit with this explanation, as the laws changed before he was charged. Maybe a better way of doing things actually, would be to sentence people based on the laws at the time of them being charged instead to get round the corruption issue you mentioned

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Sleighmie

Couldn't agree more!



I never really thought about that tbh. I don't know a LOT about the criminal justice system so at risk of making myself sound stupid lol, would it really be likely that that would happen? I mean surely it would be obvious if that was happening? And regardless, for crimes that were committed a long time ago, such as this one, sentencing based on the laws at the time of the crime doesn't really fit with this explanation, as the laws changed before he was charged. Maybe a better way of doing things actually, would be to sentence people based on the laws at the time of them being charged instead to get round the corruption issue you mentioned

let me put it this way, you are driving your car, you need to get somewhere fast, so you think ... 3 points on my license, i will take the risk. 6 months later after you are caught, the law is changed and speeding is now a driving ban, would you still have committed the offence?

[DemolitionRed]

http://www.criminallawandjustice.co....ntence-Too-Low this fully explains why Hall got the sentence he did.

[Kizzy]

Freemasons

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Life Sentences exist for perverts like this man.

Clearly not...

All paedos should get a life sentence I think. Yeah cries of 'but he could be rehabilitated!!!' will come up...but nah. Why take the risk that he isn't? Even if there was only a 1% chance, I'm not willing to risk more kids for the sake of some sickos freedom tbh

[Mystic Mock]

Paedophiles that have molested children should stay in an Asylum and thankfully never let out again, there's no impulse control from those that have acted out like that on children so they don't deserve freedom.

But his only got out of jail because his rich, just like at the Accidental Rape thread for how rich people get away with severe crimes a lot more than working class people do.

Btw I have nothing against upper class people in general, but it does irritate me how the upper class can get away with breaking the law.

[Mystic Mock]

Paedophiles that have molested children should stay in an Asylum and thankfully never let out again, there's no impulse control from those that have acted out like that on children so they don't deserve freedom.

But his only got out of jail because his rich, just look at the Accidental Rape thread for how rich people get away with severe crimes a lot more than working class people do.

Btw I have nothing against upper class people in general, but it does irritate me how the upper class can get away with breaking the law.

[Ammi]

..so his sentence was doubled in 2014 and it's not even half the sentence that he served...


..this may be within the law but it destroys faith in the law if that's so..his victims were as young as 9yrs old, I work with 9yr old children and I have worked with children who have been victims of sexual abuse and this is something that many will never get beyond in their entire lives..the emotional/mental effects, not just for them but for their families as well.. this is a failing of the system for any victims of a crime which has such far reaching effects on their lives and wrong on so many levels...for crimes as serious as this, no matter how long ago, a sentence should be a fixed sentence and that sentence should be the one that is served...